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The details are a wonderland of schadenfreude, a pure shot of serotonin to the brain at pondering what must be going on in the head of this sleazy little sex scold as he tries to figure out how to explain to his permanently pregnant wife why he felt the need for some non-procreative sexytimes with a “Stylish/Classy” woman with “Natural Breasts” who “Dislikes Routine.”
This is something that both Josh (if it’s really his account) and his permanently pregnant wife no doubt well understand: a permanently pregnant woman spends a high proportion of the time disinterested in, disinclined for, or totally unavailable for sex.
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Yeah, I don’t like Duggar and what he stands for at all but I cringe now knowing that he wants cuddling/hugging and even , gasp, a woman with short hair. It’s not my business.
His parents and their teachings really messed up these kids.
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A woman’s interest in sexytimes is not relevant in their paternalistic religion- shouldn’t have mattered at all!
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If these characters wanted to blackmail Ashley Madison, which they clearly did, it’s rather obvious they’re too stupid – or, more likely, too self-righteously self-aggrandizing – to recognize they don’t understand what blackmail is. Anyone who’s seen a mid-afternoon black-and-white matinee of a B-noir knows that you have to credibly threaten to punish the target. These dirtbags are punishing bystanders, simply because they (purport to) disapprove of what the bystanders were doing. Frankly, I have no qualms whatsoever about these “hackers” being hauled off to the furthest CIA black site and having them done away with.
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Mike Huckabee will put this all into perspective for us.
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It really isn’t a matter of Schadenfreude. This is legitmate news and ultimately beneficial to society. Consider your maxim:
People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
And yet, what is Josh Dugger but a professional stone-thrower? He spent his time not just shaming and “outing” people for their private sexual behavior and reproductive choices, but actually advocating for legal sanction against them. Let’s just consider that for a minute. This is well beyond simply shaming people - this is attempting to oppress them through the power of the state.
And no arm of the media is echoing or amping up the full list - the people who are legitimatley newsworthy, sure - that’s public figures, self-annointed and self-promoted models for their version of righteousness. The otherwise anonymous housewife from down the street or the family dentist? Not so much. So yeah, not just schadenfreude (as delicious as that is).
Second, and the real reason this is honestly an excellent development is that yes, the family dentist, the housewife from down the street: they will be exposed. With that many paid subscribers, the degrees of separation from everyone will be near zero: almost everyone will know someone. And, as with so many other Civil Rights notions, that may be what it takes to drive home two points: one, people do have a right to privacy - privacy is a civil right, followed by: people ought to MYOB - only the injured parties, the cheated upon, really have standing to get in high dudgeon. The cavalier attitude about privacy - akin to the cavalier attitude about lax 4th amendment protection - will start to change. People will finally wake up to the incredible loss of privacy they are suffering in the social media world.
This is the blowback against the partisan moral majority movement (not just Falwell’s movement) which was willing to impeach a president over a blowjob - well, sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander.
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Too true. We will probably hear another piece about the oh so sexy Beyonce destroying the morals of Obama’s daughters. Or maybe about the dangers of the “rapper” Common.
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He doesn’t mind if she upchucks? That’s what he meant by '‘non-routine’? Ewwwwwww
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These are not innocent bystanders (committing a crime in most every state) whose misplaced trust in a (let us make no mistake about this) corporation, made them part and parcel of the crime, social or personal contract be damned. Without consumers, there would have been no crime nor corporation.
I don’t care if the hackers were internal or external, they are not the problem. The fact that a corporation devoted to covering up criminals and depended on criminals for revenue is the problem. The feeling that they are “innocent bystanders” avoids the criminal element, here.
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Room for unlimited speculation on meaning of “non routine” here. Does he mean intercourse with unusual body parts or is he talking about time of day or event location?
No surprise really that a self righteous conservative is living a lie of a life full of lies.
They did. I’m not defending Josh Duggar, but after reading the profile information it occurs to me that this guy is probably pretty kinky (not that there’s anything wrong with that), and if he’d been given the opportunity to date and find a compatible mate he may not have turned to AM and apparently OK Cupid. He married very young and married the type of woman he was expected to marry, yet the type he was expected to marry isn’t necessarily the type he’d want to marry. This is probably also true of his sisters. Their parents idiotic beliefs have probably caused irreparable damage to all their children.
On the other hand, JD deserves every bit of what he’s getting. I’m tired of these pious, moralizing, hypocrites criticizing everyone else’s life while they do the exact same shit behind closed doors. Who knows how many people have been harmed by the Duggars’ brand of hypocrisy? That family deserves to be shamed as badly as they’ve shamed others.
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Actually, cheaters expose their unwitting spouses to disease. That’s the additional little terror that makes the whole thing even more horrible. Transparency at least means that those who haven’t been allowed the knowledge before can make informed choices.
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What is the crime?
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Adultery.
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But if user privacy were really a concern, it’s hard to imagine that the best way to address it is by putting user information out in public for everyone to read.
The hackers wanted the company to change their policies. Their big stick in persuading them to do so was the threat of releasing private information. The company didn’t do so. The hackers made good on the threat.
Was that the best way to address the issue? Perhaps not, but you use the tools you have.
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One would assume these weren’t immaculate conceptions and he should be adult enough to understand that if you mix it up and put it in the oven you have to wait for things to finish. Give me a break, justifying the potential cheating by blaming the wife is beyond acceptable. There’s always masturbation if he can’t wait or condoms then he wouldn’t have to be inconvenienced by doing without.
Criminal lawas against adultery are almost certainly unconstitutional based on the Lawrence ruling. Now the possibility of suing in civil court is another story, and that was viable at least as recently as 2009. But calling it criminal behavior is probably a reach.
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@whiteboar Adultery is a crime in 23 states. In Michigan (hello, Mr.and Mrs. State Reps having an an affair!) and Wisconsin its a felony. The penalty is usually very minimal…$10 in most cases, though in Massachusetts one can receive up to three years in prison. Its very rarely prosecuted as a criminal offense, however, and is most a cause for civil action, aka, grounds for divorce.
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Masturbation is a sin.
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