Discussion: Why Even Uber-Conservative States Are Now Bending On Obamacare

Wyoming still ranks quite low in that link (38/50). Which means it still takes in a large amount of federal dollars. If said money ceased, Wyoming would go third world in a year.

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Wyoming is actually one of the very few red states that just about breaks even - some years it’s a slight taker, some years a slight giver. The Atlantic link (and the one in there with the original data) doesn’t say what year it’s from, but show that Wyoming was a slight giver then. This has data from 1981-2005 and shows it fluctuates a little bit around 1.00 but stays pretty consistent.

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Wyoming appears to be an anomalous case. If you look at the original data at http://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/ the ranking is a composite of “dependence on the federal government”, based not just on the amount of money received but the federal contribution to the state budget and the proportion of federal employees in the state.

Unlike the other states that are highly dependent, Wyoming actually pays more in taxes than it receives back in federal spending. But almost 40% of its state budget comes from federal money, which leads to the high dependency rank. I suspect that that’s due in large part to the state not spending much on anything themselves, as much as it is the feds putting money in.

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Here’s another one (granted 11% is not “far more” in comparison to other states, but for a business it would be a healthy profit margin):

Please proceed with repeal efforts, Teabaggers.

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Those aren’t Wyoming’s Parks. Those Parks belong to the citizens of the United States, they were established by Federal law, and they’re maintained by taxes and fees paid by the Citizens of the United States. They just happen to lie within the boundaries of the State of Wyoming.

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Wyoming has the least population of any state in the Union. So your point is?

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Who can argue that " federal distrust and general disdain for the current administration" isn’t a good enough reason for denying your citizens access to health care?

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The impetus for the health care act was recognition by major corporations that the U.S. health care system was a major drag on the economy and only getting worse by leaps and bounds. That mainstream right winger governors and legislators didn’t want to go along at first is to be expected, but it was/is only a matter of time before they saw/see the writing on the wall, as they are part of capitalist America too - and have ERs that are being overused. Plus, in the long run it’s just good politics, as the labor market recovery has gone nowhere and the pressure is on to deal with the increasing numbers on medicaid. Rural and southern states, where the resistance has been greatest, really feel it.

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My recollection as an Arizona resident is that Governor Brewer did NOT ‘sway’ theirreconcilables in the AZ legislature to accept Medicaid expansion but rather announced that she would veto any/all legislation enacted by the Republican legislature untile the expansion was enacted. Much howling ensued but Governor Brewer prevailed. This was the Governor Brewer NOT running for re-election.

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You people don’t understand the conservative mind. They do not believe in the positive fiscal aspect of government spending, so they will not admit that Federal Healthcare spending in their state will have a positive overall affect on the State economy.

Secondly, Conservatives believe all beneficiaries of “Entitlement Programs” are lazy, jobless negroes, So, throttling these programs will either force them to work, or move to another state; Either way, money in the bank for tax cuts.

It’s just that simple.

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Yup. No problem accepting those federal subsidies when it comes to lower fees for grazing their cattle!

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Dear Montana,

Thank you for sending your money down here to Arizona to help pay for medical care for our low-income population. I’m kind of sorry about how things are going for your folks, but we appreciate the money and hope you keep sending it.

Sincerely, Arizona

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How many of their citizens died because if the governor’s refusal to expand Medicaid? How many hospitals closed in rural areas and small towns because if these Republicans towing the party line?

Every single one should be voted out of office! How many patients have to travel greater distances for healthcare? Hiw many lack transportation and no longer see a doctor?

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as of 2010 there were 563,626 humans in Wyoming as compared to 1.2 million cows.

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Obamacare is Obamacare is the ACA is Medicaid expansion no matter how you slice it. None of this exists without it and there is no Wyoming version of Obamacare without, you know, Obamacare.

The rednecks can continue the brainlock until the cows come home, Obamacare has been the right thing to do from the get and still is. This is just boneheaded obstinance and lame-brained hate before common sense and before doing their jobs.

I’ll say by 2024, everyone is in and possibly by 2020.

Obamacare is the shit!

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Agree. The Reich-wingers blew it when they started calling it Obamacare. Now the name has stuck on a program that is a success. And so are they.

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“their federal tax dollars are paying for expansion in other states”

You actually mean the Chinese et al are going to be paying.

As soon as Bozo Paul LePage is out of office here in Maine, ne wgovernor Mike Michaud will approve the legislature’s next vote to expand Medicaid.

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They have given in for four basic reasons:

  1. They can’t kill it. They TRIED like crazy but the Democrats refused to budge.

  2. Obamacare is basically a health care system for the uninsured or the under-insured. The Democrats have those voters ANYWAY.

  3. Opposing it makes them look like the heartless bastards they are (you can’t win elections that way).

  4. People in the non-medicaid expanding states (State A) still have to pay out money for those sick ni(CLANG!) in State B while the ill white people in State A are getting zilch. That drives them insane with helpless fury.