Hilarious how you use this argument as reasoning that Menendez is guilty while insisting that an investigation supported by Repubs will turn up zero on donnie. Magical Thinking is alive and well, it seems.
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You do have to admit though, that his/her entire comment is a gorgeous (and competent) example of Trumpian Projection.
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I remember years ago I participated in the Do-It-Yourself Handelās Messiah sung at Christmas at the Lyric Opera House in Chicago where thousands of people sang with a full orchestra. I joined my fellow tenors when I looked over and saw Sen. Paul Simon singing in my section! A good guy and a great senator.
(And Sen. Durbin and Sen. Duckworth are both top notch senators right now!)
The sin of abandoning Barbara Buono by the South jersey Democrats and many others in the party will rear its ugly head if Christie gets an appointment.
Not until NJ has a Democratic Governor anyway.
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Accept-my-rejection, you-buncha-haters alert.
āRunning a political campaign on HATE is a recipe for failureā¦ā
-As Bernie Sanders found out.
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Menendez will get convicted, appeal conviction to drag things out, Dem will be elected Govenor of NJ, Dems in Senate will throw Menendez to sharks in Senate impeachment forcing Menendez to resign before the ignominy of impeachment, NJ Dem Gov will name replacement, replacement runs for election in 2018.
That is how I see it playing out. The article did not do a decent job of exploring the most likely scenario. However, far more problematic for Dems is Menendez being acquitted and running for re-election. Dems look weak by supporting a corrupt but unconvicted Senator. Christie is at about 3% approval and NJ voters will not care he did not get to appoint the replacement. What they will care about is a corrupt Dem running for re-election.
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Too bad theyāre not Republicans - then theyād have no problem doing the above.
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In the end, Christie will go where the most high profile & lucrative post-gov job opportunity is offered.
Seriously, it would be a tremendous FU to Trump (and maybe even lend some CYA against future corruption investigations) if he picked a democrat. Plus, so far, being a sycophant hasnāt really done anything but destroy his stature. Rare is the politician who isnāt driven to some degree by vanity or pride.
The 51 vote reconciliation window has closedā¦
If the Democratic candidate for governor, Phil Murphy, wins the November election to replace the deeply unpopular Christie, as is widely expected, Democrats can argue that theyāre only protecting the will of the people of New Jersey by dragging their feet on a Senate vote on expulsion until the new governor can name a replacement through 2018.
But itās not an easy political position to be in for Democrats ā and that has Republicans salivating.
āI donāt think itād be possible to defend keeping a felon in the Senate if he is convicted. Itās a huge opportunity,ā said Scott Sloofman, a New Jersey native who works for the GOP outside group America Rising.
Heh. That shit may have worked prior to Alito dying. I donāt think that holier-than-thou, pearl clutching how-dare-they attitude will work this time around. Not after the whole Gorsich bullshit.
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I donāt know the particulars of the case, but if heās guilty, then thereās no question he needs to go to jail. If a Democratic governor can apppoint a Democratic senator, then letās at least make it someone who isnāt a hand full of gimme and a mouth full of much obliged.
Sorry Steve, he doesnāt have a point, just a meme that the Democrat is always guilty when charged, and the Republican, meh, it doesnāt matter. Look at the diaper guy, look at Christie and his bridge, the philandering on taxpayer dime in Argentina or wherever governor, hell, look at the Nazi loving, KKK inspiring, white supremacist loving idiot president.
And you all are falling right for it. Menendez is guilty and what will the Democrats do. How about assume that a) heās innocent until proven guilty, b) he doesnāt need to do anything that satisfies what the republicans want.
If everyone in New Jersey is corrupt, then he does represent the people and he definitely should stay in office, regardless of the outcome of the trial, which I assume is just a bunch of republican bullshit anyway.
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Lose the battle. Win the war. Menedez has to go.
If they donāt find him guilty then he isnāt corrupt, heās innocent. Thatās how it works for the GOP, same should apply to the Dems.
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Yes he can and I have no doubt he would.
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If heās convicted. Once heās convicted, he loses the presumption of innocence, both legally and as a rhetorical matter. If heās convicted, they have to vote to expel him if they donāt want to open up an equivalency and hypocrisy meme that destroys their ability to attack on Republicans for putting party before country by supporting Trump.
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NJ is a state that has its gubernatorial elections in odd years. So Christieās replacement will be elected this November, and take office in January, 2018. I donāt know how long Menendezās trial is going to last of course, but thereās no way that 15 Democrats in the Senate are going to line up for an expulsion with Obamacare on the line. So the trial, verdict, sentencing, appeals, holiday breaks, before you know it weāre well into January. McConnell could try and rush a vote but thereās no parliamentary tricks he can play; the Constitution says two-thirds, and two-thirds it shall be.
Iād expect a deal where Menendez holds on to his seat, pending appeals, until the new (Democratic) governor is sworn in, then allowed to gracefully resign.
And thatās if heās convicted, which isnāt a slam-dunk.
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Interesting claims about how Trump won the election. I still blame the EC being fucked up, both from giving some states more power than their population and the EC voters themselves really supposed to have sense and be allowed not to follow idiot voters and voting for an idiot candidate.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/bernie-sanders-voters-helped-trump-become-president/
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