Discussion: What We Now Know About The Nearly Completed Cohen Criminal Probe

I am pretty sure this is how many in trump’s orbit and at the end of their rope are feeling these days…

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Of course Donald would.

He lies, especially if an oath or vow is involved. He enjoys breaking those the most.

Chen?

Crazy, un-Rich, Agin’

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Except for paramour eruption management, I’m wonder how much Cohen knows about Russian interference in 2016 election. So maybe the better question is how many new potential criminal cases involving Trump, Trump familia, and Trump Organization could Cohen open with his proffer to the feds? The juiciest things he may know might not have anything to do with topics presently under investigation by the Russian 2016 election interference SC.

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Now I see those ears. Hound indeed. Beautiful dog.

Le mien:

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Yes, la meme chose!
Looks to be a hound to me.
Mine’s around 79 pounds. And when in a group at the dog park she will try to “explain things” vocally to the other dogs. They don’t seem to get it. It’s a hound trait. Doesn’t bark at home unless it’s necessary. These two look very similar.

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Mine can climb a fence (6ft wooden fence, for example; wire fence is no problem) or a tree - big long toes and extremely agile. Only about 45 lbs. Is the alpha, though female, to a larger male mutt. She does howl some.

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Mine’s howl shows up only when/if there are intruders…javalina, for example, raiding the garden has set her off in the past. The hound howl as is her bark is distinctive. Of the dozen or so ‘regulars’ who show up early mornings at our local dog park she is #2 in the hierarchy and she won’t allow face licking by young dogs so they don’t even try… Our dog isn’t interested in running away. She could if she set her mind to it but she chooses not to.

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I’d like to know if anything Cohen did for Trump in setting up his businesses was illegal? He was used as an advance man to set up hotels in foreign countries. Nothing illegal here?

Cohen and Manafort both do have real reasons to wonder whether prison would be better than complete disclosure of their actions, given some of the people they were agents for (and no, I’m not talking about Mr Trump, who is a lightweight in this area, and was probably just another catspaw for the major organized crime figures we’re talking about). Taxis and real-estate are both good for money laundering, and both were seriously infiltrated by the Russian mob in NYC, I have heard. That mob isn’t going to go after Mr Trump personally, no matter what – too high visibility. But if I were either Cohen or Manafort, I would worry about personal retaliation (not just on themselves, but on immediate family) if they spoke of certain issues too openly with the Feds.

Then again, the advantage of being Robert Mueller is that he knows all this, and has dealt with major crime figures for decades, so can strategize in an appropriate way that will maximize the pressure on Cohen and Manafort. A pardon by Mr Trump, incidentally, would have no effect whatsoever on the measures organized crime might see fit to take, it if was in their interest or if they just decided to make an example… and a pardon would simultaneously make it easier to pressure either man to testify (no 5th amendment for what you’ve received a pardon for, right?).

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Rachel had similar thoughts on these Cohen stories tonight: shit ain’t adding up.

Case in point - SDNY still doesn’t have password to one of his phones, a Blackberry.

The impression I’m beginning to get is that part – perhaps a majority or plurality – of the results of Mueller’s investigation is the exposure of major players (Cohen, Manafort, Trump himself, maybe even Sean Hannity and who knows who else) in a massive Russian Mob/Oligarchs money-laundering scheme.
I don’t think it ends there (the Trumpians obviously facilitated Russian election interference in some ways), but even if the more salacious aspects of the Steele Dossier prove false we still have a compromised President.

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Oh, good. Now I have two more words I can give you.

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“Pets have owners. Cats have staff.”

I can attest to the latter. Don’t know how it works with dogs; I imagine it’s a somewhat different dynamic.

It is a different dynamic. We have 3 cats and the dog. Dogs reflect the human household dynamic. If it is calm, ordered and loving you usually find the dog is well mannered. Cats have their own agenda.

“people familiar with the case” is DEFINITELY NOT Mueller or any of Mueller’s People in the OSC, and NOT the office of the US attorney for SDNY, nor more broadly the U.S. DoJ.

“people familiar with the case” would be Republican operatives.The ONLY news org cited in this article are the NYT and the WSJ - BOTH of which practice access reporting with the Trump administration and Republican establishment.

The so-called ‘rule’ Rudy G and anon Rs keep feeding to the Times and Journal and Fox News and whoever else is willing to parrot it DOES. NOT. EXIST. Trump is not on the ballot in November, nor is anyone that the OSC is likely to seek to indict (with the possible exceptions of Nunes and Rohrbacker, but IMO not even them).

It’s just as phony as Rudy G’s nonsense that the msm news orgs keep parroting about some “report” from Mueller. The ONLY such “report” contemplated in the executive order, policy guidelines and DoJ OLC legal opinions that bind or guide the Mueller OSC contemplate a report from Mueller to his constitutional overseer, that being Rosenstein, RECOMMENDING prosecution of President Trump, in which case, if Rosenstein were to turn that down, he’d be obligated by thse E.D. to give Congress a copy of Mueller’s report as well as his own written reasons for declining to follow any recommendations in it, so Congress can consider impeachment.

Moreover, the only time Mueller has even mentioned the notion of a “report” was way back at the beginning of this calendar year, at a time when Trump was saying publicly he’d be submitting to interview by Mueller ‘without limits or reservations’. Since that’s obviously off the table completely, and Trump will not submit to ANY interview by Mueller, that’s also sayonara for the sort of “report” Mueller was discussing.

There. will. be. no. Mueller. report. Mueller speaks through indictments, court filings and his assisting attorneys in court, and that’s it.

I have two words I’d like to give you but that would result in being flagged.

I’m sure you would.

Mine, on the other hand, are not flaggable. They’re true, and not an attack. And therein lies the difference.