Discussion: What To Watch For In Thursday's Dueling Senate Shutdown Votes

Agreed. Trump constantly moves the goalposts. The Democrats should do the same.

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Not quite. McConnell needs to bring the funding bills passed by the House to a vote.

He consistently prevents that from happening.

Updating my comment to include that.

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             What To Watch For

Iā€™m going to stubbornly cling to ā€¦ā€¦

              What To Expect
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Trump and McConnell and Republicans donā€™t build or fix or improve government - they destroy it and they tear it down which is to tear down our society and what is needed for a civil society. People must really hate America to vote Republican.

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All it does is open USG for SOTU and ensure TSA is working for Super Bowl weekend.

Wonā€™t the furloughed workers get paid as well? That would make it worth it. But I get your point, two weeks will come and go so fast.

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Getting everyone the backpay for the last month would at least help get set up for the next shutdown. Better a short extension than continued shutdown.

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Way to straddle that divide, Sen. Manchin. Be careful you donā€™t split yourself in the middle trying.

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Sinema just voted no on the Trump plan. She did not reveal her vote until she cast it.

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The silver lining, some lawmakers hope, is that the failures could potentially force both parties to work more seriously to find a real solution.

Oh, dear, I never expected to see both-sides-do-it at TPMā€¦

Republicans voting against the Presidentā€™s plan because it is not mean enough.

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I hope they do get asked. I want every bogus, untruthful response on the record. Their spineless cowtowing to Trumpā€™s whim are keeping thousands from being paidā€¦and millions of people having their lives adversely affectedā€¦

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I assume reopening would include backpay. IIRC Congress (or at least the House) already passed a bill to the effect.

Yes, getting a month of back pay is a BFD.

But the ā€œno wallā€ bill would be a two week ā€œkick the can down the road so the Mad Puppet can have his SOTU fix and we donā€™t inconvenience the Super Bowl public.ā€ :angry:

Vote on the House funding bills. #WheresMitch

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Pundits ought to be pounding the Republicans on the pettiness of using government services as a cudgel in negotiating policy. They had control of both chambers and the Presidency for two years, but didnā€™t build that wall. Punishing people and industries that depend upon the governmentā€™s integrity is worse than childish, its a betrayal of the fundamental duty of the electeds to serve the nation.

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Next up the Democrats plan.

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And, per usual the comments arenā€™t working.

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Ouch

and we donā€™t inconvenience the Super Bowl public."

Donā€™t get me going. The public will get their chips and dip, plus four hours of commercials interrupted by football and of course, paying ā€˜homageā€™ to the troops and our perpetual wars against sovereign nations. But Iā€™ll watch. American culture is a trip.

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I just sent an email to site issues.

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I asked yesterday to have comments fixed before I go ā€œAd Freeā€

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Ouch is right.

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