Discussion: What To Watch For In Thursday's Dueling Senate Shutdown Votes

What bugs me about this whole process is that no one seems to be offering an obvious solution — let both bills achieve cloture and be voted on.

GOPers could use the opportunity to support Trump on the record if they choose, while McConnell goes to the White House and explains that the votes are there for an override. And Dems get a better shot at getting the government reopened, knowing that the Trump bill, if passed by the Senate, is going nowhere in the House.

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“is that the failures could potentially force both parties to work more seriously to find a real solution.”

A real solution? Opening the government is the fucking solution.

Or are we talking about a solution to the problem that is drump?

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But the silver lining, some lawmakers hope, is that the failures could
potentially force both parties to work more seriously to find a real
solution.

And what would that be? They are dealing with Trump and most favorite plushy toy. He will never give it up.

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Republican mantra:

All thats needed for evil to triump is for good men to do nothing…

Nothing do nothing

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December had GOP senators voting unanimously in favor of clean CR. Today, these same scumbags will vote against a clean CR. What is the advantage of declaring allegiance to the self-confessed sexual predator as tragedy envelops millions of Americans?

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Appeasing Ann Coulter

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I suppose there’s always a possibility of a revolt by moderate Republicans and the House version of the bill passes by a veto-proof margin.

Oh, right. There’d have to be some actual moderate Republicans.

Never mind.

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The Mitchcreant Senate: Where governance goes to die.

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So I’m sure reporters will be asking all the republican senators who vote against the clean CR what changed since they voted in favor a month ago.

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Tillis, cannot tell us why he voted for this in December but won’t be a yes today because reasons…

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So
Tillis thinks that shutting down the government and threatening to veto a CR you previously agreed to sign is good faith dealing? Well, all right then!

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I agree with Rachel Maddow. This is just a pretense for Donald to tear this government — especially law enforcement — limb from limb.

What does Donald care?

His funding comes from Russia, and there’s a plush, over-priced Moscow hotel with his name on it waiting for him.

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It was passed in December by unanimous voice vote, which is like “speak now or forever hold your peace” at a wedding. So while there were no reports of anyone saying no, it’s not clear whether individual senators said yes.

However, this “the President said he would veto” is bullshit. It’s one thing if the leader of your party lobbies you to vote for something so that it can pass. If it doesn’t pass the legislature, he or she can’t sign it into law. But if the President doesn’t like something, they have the explicit Constitutional power to veto (even a pocket veto). This new Holster Veto power that the McConnell and Republicans have invented for their weak-ass bully, who can’t even fire someone to their face, is sedition.

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I called my two senators today and told the person who answered (one) and the answering machine (the other) that I didn’t care whether they voted for Trump’s (because it would not pass the House, but I didn’t add that), but I cared very much that they voted for the Democratic one which said open the government! I doubt they will listen, but …

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Nothing.

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I’ll be watching for the slow walk of Turd-le Mitch.

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We can only hope that the media holds all the Republicans who voted for this in December and will vote against it today accountable…calling out their hypocrisy is critical, as it will show they are the ones playing politics, not the Democrats. Conservative media won’t, obviously, but the rest of the media really needs to draw that distinction out…only by pressuring those senators, especially the ones up in 2020, will this end by voting on bills.

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… The Democratic plan would simply fund the government for two weeks through Feb. 8, giving both sides a chance to negotiate over a longer-term plan.

This is absurd.

All it does is open USG for SOTU and ensure TSA is working for Super Bowl weekend.

Then back to a shutdown. Screw that.

McConnell needs to bring the funding bills passed by the House to a vote.

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