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Not much to appologize for. Sure, it was a mistake, mostly because of the optics, but not a mistake with a real victim. Acknowledging it was a mistake is all she really needs to do.
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Wow. Hillary Clinton get’s more and more tone-deaf and lame.
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From this article.
“she wouldn’t apologize for using private email at the State Department because it had been allowed.”
"That was a mistake. I’m sorry about that. I take responsibility, and I’m trying to be as transparent as I possibly can,” Clinton said in the clip.
I’ve been following this issue and I don’t see any inconsistency between what she’s said here and earlier. If there is it’s the subtle parsing of the beating of a dead horse.
From the Andrea Mitchell Interview:
AM: Welcome, Secretary Clinton. Thank you so much for doing this interview.
You said recently that using your personal e-mail while you were Secretary of State was not the best choice, and that you take responsibility. Are you sorry?
HRC: Well, I certainly wish that I had made a different choice, and I know why the American people have questions about it.
And I want to make sure I answer those questions, starting with the fact that my personal e-mail use was fully above board. It was allowed by the State Department, as they have confirmed. But in retrospect, it certainly would have been better.
I take responsibility. I should’ve had two accounts - one for personal, one for work-related - and I’ve been as transparent as I could, asking all 55,000 pages be released to the public, turning over my server, looking for opportunities to testify before Congress.
and later in the interview
So at the end of the day, I am sorry that this has been confusing to people and has raised a lot of questions.
But there are answers to all these questions, and I will continue to provide those answers.
And those answers have been confirmed and affirmed by the State Department and by other government officials, and eventually I’ll get to testify in public, and I’m sure that it will be a long and grueling time there, but all the questions will be answered.
And I take responsibility and it wasn’t the best choice.
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There isn’t any. I am so tired of this story. Do you remember when the republicans almost shut the government down over 142 christmas cards the Clintons sent out. This is what they do and the media helped them then and it is so different now. Most people voting for Hillary don’t give a flying fuck and despite the bullshit polls, most people don;t. The only ones who do are the republicans and their whore friends, the media
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Using a “putative” Biden candidacy to “dilute” her polling numbers appears to be the latest MSM ploy. I have no quarrel with either Bernie or Hillary. Many of Hillary’s and Bernie’s supporters are often way over the top and frankly, some are a little off-putting. I will happily vote for either one of them. But the MSM tries to play both sides against the middle and invent controversy and when supporters enable this behaviour, it is not in the interest of either candidate.
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Of course the 45% that will vote for her no matter what doesn’t care but she will need more than that to get elected.
Furthermore, it is only still a story becausE she keeps changing her story. First it was, I never sent any classified material, I never sent anything classified at the time, I never sent anything that I knew was classified and now it is I never sent anything marked as classified.
That is problem with the Clinton’s they never just tell the truth the first time when asked. It is always a evolving truth, which is why 60% find her untruthful and untrustworthy and when asked to give a word to describe her it is liar that wins out.
Oh bullshit. Her story has been the same, or close enough, unless you parse it to death with a fine toothed comb. The problem with your theory is that her “story” involves a non-existent issue. Powell used his own email. Rice used private email. Clinton used private email. That’s what they all did. And it wasn’t a big deal then and it still isn’t. I actually like that she used a hardened server that was run by the Secret Service. And no matter how many times people keep trying to make this story important, it’s still about WHAT EMAIL SERVER she used. Who cares? Did she break any rules? Any laws? Do anything, you know, WRONG?
But keep fucking that chicken. Maybe one day it’ll cockadoodledoo for you.
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And so its come to this. As of Friday she wasn’t going to say she was sorry. Then we learn she shunned the Colbert “Bump.” Now she is sorry. It’s like watching a slow-motion wreck on the interstate, you know it’s going to be ugly but damn I just can’t stop watching.
It pisses me off that they are aggressively pursuing her to say “her sorry,” yet Trump says & does whatever the hell he wants - and they praise him for not saying “his sorry.” Friggin double standard.
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I agree. They are so far removed from a Benghazi investigation (number 8 by Congress I believe, yet we had to fight tooth and nail to just ONE for 9/11), that the press doesn’t even know what they are chasing down anymore. Literally. Since her interview with Andrea Mitchell its been non stop that she didn’t apologize (for what, that never can quite pin down). And true to form, now that she has apologized (again, for what, is beyond me), they are piling on because she apologized.
Its literally now a game of “Hillary said something!! Get HER!!!” as the media runs around with torches and pitchforks. She has broken now law, no rule…yet the press demands she apologize. I would like to ask just one of these reporters…“What exactly does her apologizing or not (again, for what??) have to do with the current Benghazi investigation that is costing tax payers millions?” Yet all weekend they ran stories about how incredibly insulted they were that she didn’t grovel enough before Andrea Mitchell.
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Just like Ken Starr’s investigations uncovered no wrongdoing until Monica Lewinski’s story was made public.
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She sure does seem to be floundering. O.K., it was a mistake, but I won’t apologize…here let me make a lame joke about it, wait no I realize it’s no laughing matter…O.K. I do kinda-sorta apologize…actually, can you hold on a minute, I need to ask my staff what I believe today.
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Like the Clinton’s, the apologist never tell the entire truth. Neither Powell nor Rice utilized a private server for which they had 100% control over. If you don’t realize why that is a problem, then nothing that is said will matter. You will be just like that idiot Howard Dean fumbling over his words, and if course mentioning Powell/Rice etc…, when he was asked about how can there be any real oversight if Hillary controls who can have access and what they are allowed to access. Because the answer is there is no oversight except trusting in the truthfulness of Hillary, which nobody but hard core Clinton kool-aide drinkers trust.
However, when asked to give a word that describes her out of the top twelve it was liar, untrustworthy, untruthful, deceitful, criminal, crook, etc…
First it was, I never sent any classified material, I never sent anything classified at the time, I never sent anything that I knew was classified and now it is I never sent anything marked as classified.
I agree she and her campaign have handled this pretty badly, but this particular criticism seems a bit silly to me. Maybe she should have anticipated that her detractors would succeed in convincing (at least some) people that she should somehow have magically known that some documents not marked “classified” should have been marked that way, or that some documents that were unclassified when she sent them might be classified in the future. So maybe she should have gone with “I never sent anything marked as classified” from the beginning, and just stuck to that. But I have a hard time blaming her for that one, because the attempt to make sending an e-mail that was only later deemed “classified” into some kind of wrongdoing on her part is just so patently absurd. And yeah, you know there’s going to be absurdity, but as there is literally an infinite supply of absurd lines of attack that might be dreamed up, there’s no way to anticipate them all.
I have plenty of issues with Hillary Clinton, but this isn’t one of them.
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Then she shouldn’t be Sec of State if she doesn’t know that information about negotiations with foreign governments is always classified. Not to mention she sent such information to Sidney Blumenthal who has no clearance and was barred by the Obama administration from doing any work with the State Department.
If being a liar and untrustworthy isn’t a problem with you then nothing will really matter.
I believe that’s called apologizing. You don’t apologize if you did not make a mistake.
Both parties have that number for ANY general election candidate, so that’s a moot point.
And if she runs against Jeb, this stuff gets thrown back in HIS face because he is the only other politician to do the same stupid thing, set up their own private server. And at that point it’s old news for Hillary, and a new issue for Jeb.
O.K., to be fair, one can apologize for one aspect of a situation, while declining to apologize for other aspects. An near as I can tell, she’s not apologizing for any “misconduct” (which makes sense, because there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that she did anything illegal, unethical, or unprofessional) but is willing to apologize for “making a mistake.” But it’s not entirely clear to me if she thinks the mistake was using one e-mail account instead of two, as this article seems to indicate, or if she’s saying that using the private server was a mistake.
Not true.
Powell used a State Department issued classified system and he used separate computer with a personal email address - what Clinton should have done:
I arrived at the State Department as secretary with a disastrous information system there. And I had to fix it. And so what I had to do is bring the State Department to the 21st century.
And the way of doing that was getting new computers. That gave them access to the whole world. And then in order to make sure that I changed the brainware of the department, and not just the software and hardware, I started to use email. I had two machines on my desk. I had a secure State Department machine, which I used for secure material, and I had a laptop that I could use for email.
And I would email relatives, friends, but I would also email in the department. But it was mostly housekeeping stuff. “What’s the status in this paper? What’s going on here?” So it was my own classified system, but I had a classified system also on my desk.
http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-transcript-september-6-2015-n422606
Rice used only the State Department issued classified system. Ironically, Rice’s emails have been available at the State Department site since 2009. While SOS Clinton had fought FOIA requests for her emails since 2010.
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