Discussion: Unsealed Flynn Doc: Trump Camp Floated Reaching Out To WikiLeaks In Oct 2016

You can carry a bucket
You can carry a grudge
But don’t carry on 'cause here come the judge

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o/t …

Mikey’s busted —

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/05/16/in-violation-of-ethics-law-pence-received-legal-defense-fund-from-florida-lawyer.html

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After reading the filing and looking over Vol 1 of the Mueller Report again, it seems like Judge Sullivan was right that there was more that Flynn knew about and could provide to prosecutors. The ire that Judge Sullivan expressed in December at the Flynn hearing was directed at Flynn’s lack of patriotism, but it was also a dig at the OSC for appearing to go soft on an obvious traitor.

Sullivan’s demand of the OSC to make this filing, unseal it, and demand further that audio recordings become public are all about telling the OSC to stop going soft on these traitors. Expose it all and tell the American people.

I found it a little galling that the OSC highlighted Flynn’s cooperation in the investigation and indictment of Bijan Kian as a sign of good cooperation. As the Judge noted, he could’ve (and should’ve) faced prosecution for those Turkey related charges and would’ve face 10 years in jail. He basically transferred all of his liability exposure to Kian and threw him under the bus to save his own ass. This is like the leader throwing an underling under the bus. Is that really worth saying ‘kudos, no jail time Mikey’?!!!. No. Flynn should only get a reduction in jail time if he flips on the big players and that an actual indictment is filed. That hasn’t happened yet. Either Mueller is soft, or it’s being handled through one or more of the 14 cases that were referred out. Why again did the OSC offer him no jail time when they didn’t indict Kushner, Junior or Trump Sr. based on Flynn’s cooperation? Judge Sullivan seems to be asking the same question.

Substantively, we’re learning that the Trump legal team and allies in Congress and other liaisons made repeated attempts to dissuade Flynn from cooperating with the Special Counsel. I’ve speculated that it’s a former Nunes aide, but it likely was more than 1 person and more than 1 approach. That’s witness tampering and obstruction of justice. We see this pattern all through Vol 2. Most of it is directed by Rudy Giuliani, who successfully persuaded Manafort to renege on his plea deal and spend time in the slammer to protect Trump. Why the f**k is Rudy not under investigation or indictment by now? I think Judge Sullivan is kinda saying the same thing. As Maddow said, how is it that Trump hasn’t been impeached for obstruction yet? This is so blatant that it’s crying out for a remedy.

The other thing that stands out after re-reading portions of Vol 1 is that Flynn turns out to be the Russians go-to person to connect with the Trump crew during the campaign, the transition and in the Administration. A good portion of Vol 1 details the many attempts the Russians made to find links into the Trump circle to push their Ukraine and anti-sanctions agenda, but they were often frustrated or underwhelmed by the people they connected with…except for Flynn. Even Mueller quips, “Despite Kushner’s conclusion that Kislyak did not wield influence inside the Russian government, the Transition team turned to Flynn’s relationship with Kislyak on both issues.” [the two issues were the Israeli settlements resolution at the UN + the response to Obama election sanctions against Russia on 12/29/16). [As an aside, the reason Mueller seems to point to Flynn as the key liaison w/Russia is because Kushner lied and covered up so much about his own connections that Mueller couldn’t find the evidence to really nail him].

The thing is the Russians knew immediately to contact Flynn when Obama issued those sanctions. Flynn was the guy who was assigned the task of ‘finding the missing 30k emails’. Flynn provided the most evidence to Mueller about Donald Trump’s personal knowledge of the Russia-Wikileaks connection and his strong desire to leverage and use this information. How did Flynn know all of this if he wasn’t at the center of things? What does Flynn know about the Cambridge Analytica connection? Did Flynn know about and help the Trump campaign direct efforts to align social media messaging with what the IRA was doing? There’s much more here and Mueller seems to have been protecting Flynn at some level for some purpose. Judge Sullivan is having none of it.

We’re going to be able to see the transcript of the call Kislyak had with Flynn. That’s going to further expose the cover-up that took place after the call. Even Mueller’s report doesn’t fully explain why Flynn lied to the FBI. Why is it that everyone told the same cover story. Mueller indicates that it’s fairly likely that Trump knew what Flynn told Kislyak but he can’t prove it definitively. Why did Mike Pence and everyone insist that Flynn lying to Pence was the reason why he was fired as opposed to, Trump simply finding someone to take the fall for the Russia matter so he could get Comey to shut down the investigation? I think we might be getting a little closer to some fundamental revelations.

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Only if it’s one of the big five approved subjects.

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I love the smell of a smoking gun in the morning.

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AND… since the rules add that this is the only time jr can be questioned he likely skates on this.

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Definitely some Real Genius on the part of the Trump campaign here.

Wisconsin is in its own world.

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Too little too late. Mueller’s made a mess. With do-nothing, write-pretty folks like Mueller in the FBI, traitors like Flynn and racists like Kelly leading the military, it is no wonder that Afghanistan and Iraq were disasters of American policy.

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OT but what are your plans for the new truck? What is this truck in your avatar? What all are you going to be doing to it? When do we get to see your next avatar?

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I’m right there with you. I get slammed a lot for saying Mueller’s a zero, not a hero but anyone with their eyes open can see it. Not only did “Hero” Bob totally soft-shoe the investigation but he also tried to give deals to other key players who should be doing hard time for their treason.

There’s a few tells with Ol’ “Hero” Bob.

He lied to us about Iraq & WMDs, enabling the prosecution of an illegal war.

He takes the flamethrower to Buzzfeed for not using the best adjective or some hooey yet is totally silent while two years’ worth of work and his reputation are trashed by Barr.

He’s still not made a public statement. This is a man with utterly nothing to lose by doing the right thing. His pensions for prior service are assured and I don’t think he needs to stay at the DOJ because he’s living paycheck-to-paycheck.

Go have dinner with Ducky, Silent Bob. Dessert is watching all the principles you claim to hold dear going down the drain.

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I agree with and believe in everything here. The main problem we have is a lack of will among the people that can actually do something about it. If this information gets out, how will the media spin it to support the President, as they have more than a few other things? Or the things that they’ve completely ignored? Or completely mis-interpreted? All in the name of not losing access.

The Democrats have done half the job on this, thus far, with issuing subpoenas but the follow through has been questionable.

The GOP are just smirking in the corner, knowing they control the message and letting the Dems look toothless.

This information has been out there for more than a year, but suppressed by investigations without any reasonable outcome. We can’t march in the streets to get prosecutors to do their jobs, so what is the end game for this?

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It’s an International … C-20 —
They only made the C series for 3 years … '34 - '36 –

I’ll need to download some pics for ya … but I will —

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Used to be where all the nice people come from but all that racist, right wing intentional and willful ignorance was bubbling just below the surface. Scott Walker tore the lid off.

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Easy there, Svetlana. You NEVER lead with your, uh, strongest post. You want to entice the reader a bit first to keep them reading until you unveil your very best borscht.

Didn’t Vladi’s minions teach you that?

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And yet Mueller found no conspiracy? I’m starting to wonder what, exactly, he needed to see to conclude there was a conspiracy. At this point, it looks like he was waiting for someone to hit him over the head with a baseball bat on which was carved, “We conspired!”

I know that the Palmer Report doesn’t have the greatest track record overall, but I found this posting from today offers some hope, and a hint of 4-D chess:

"Last night Robert Mueller’s prosecutorial team – which apparently still exists on some level – made a court filing in the Michael Flynn case, despite the fact that it wasn’t under obligation to do so, and it wasn’t even close to being up against any deadline. The filing revealed that Flynn witnessed Trump and his underlings commit several crimes. This in turn prompted the judge in the case to order that far more evidence of these crimes be publicly released soon. This, of course, wasn’t coincidence.

“With his filing yesterday, Mueller is essentially unredacting the most important pieces of his own report by force, in a way that Attorney General William Barr can’t stop. If Mueller had publicly testified on the 15th as originally planned, would he have been legally able to discuss the Trump crimes that Flynn witnessed? But now that Mueller has found a way to force the Flynn stuff into the public purview, there’s nothing that Trump and Barr can even try to do to stop Mueller from testifying about the Flynn stuff.”

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Do they never hear themselves? No matter how adroitly they dance around the words, they are committing obstruction of justice and they HAVE TO KNOW IT!

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Bobby M wrote a nice looking and very clever-sounding report and ran a tight ship that did not leak. He protected Putin’s whores from legal scrutiny and put the interests of the Party above the country. I am amazed that he shut down his so-called investigation without even interviewing Preshitident Skanky-Manslut.

Compare Bobby M’s level of effort to that of sleazy and vile christian conservative hack Ken Starr. Kenny was on television every week, interviewed President Clinton and got the blue dress.

I think, if I recall correctly, that since Don Jr. didn’t respond directly back to the emails, he was in the clear (in this instance).

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