Well, you got me. The Gawker article was eye opening, and it just points out that I’m from a totally other planet regarding younger females and how they behave. My generation, that of my avatar’s by the way, was prepped by our mothers telling us what was acceptable, but not always what was not. But the young women I hung with did not talk about vaginas and erections and those are the women I know best. What I described was a representation of my generation’s mores which helped make me the feminist I am today, and I am free of sexism, don’t go there knowingly even a little.
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I went to a frat-free college. And I can tell you that if you get rid of the damn things, it fundamentally changes the college experience for every single person on campus in a way that is profoundly beneficial to the students, the educational environment and the long term financial well-being of the institution itself in terms of alumni loyalty and devotion.
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Oh, please. When she was young, my grandmother used to smoke cigars and drink booze while playing pool with the guys, from what I understand; and she predates you by quite a bit. There have ALWAYS been women who talked about vaginas and erections. Just as there have always been people who claimed it wasn’t proper from women to behave that way. Premarital sex didn’t start in the 60’s. That was just the baby boomers imagining they invented fun, all based on lies their parents told them. And if that’s a picture of Janis Joplin, with all the booze and drugs she did, I’d be surprised if she didn’t talk about vaginas and erections herself.
And just to be clear, you weren’t originally describing past generations but our current generation. You might think you’re free of sexism, but if you think there’s a big difference between how guys and girls act, you’ve got a ways to go, since that’s the definition of sexism. Like I said, you should never make assumptions about people based on race, gender, or other superficial traits; since they don’t mean anything. Some girls want to be a princess, and some want to c**t punt princesses. That’s just the way things are.
Or perhaps your college didn’t attract the type of people who want to be in a fraternity. I went to a few different colleges, two that had frat systems and one that didn’t. I don’t see how it impacted my life at those schools either way. As I said before, these guys are all over society and it’s absurd to think it’s somehow created by fraternities.
I’m not totally naive, I don’t think. I know there are college students like this guy. But I must say that as the father of a soon-to-be college-bound daughter, this makes me sick to read.
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Thanks for sharing.
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Put a sock in it son, or I will have you out of here faster than shit through a goose.
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Too many Americans these days have absolutely no concept that their “free speech” doesnt mean or guarantee “consequence free”, anything goes speech.
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The reason why colleges and universities welcome fraternal organizations is housing, plain and simple. Frats house upwards of 25% of undergraduates at some institutions. This significantly lowers costs for students and the institutions.
You’re right that we don’t know the context of this communication, but that doesn’t really matter for two reasons.
First, sure, this is a private email, unless it was sent over the university’s email system, which is, believe it or not, public domain and subject to oversight from the Maryland university system.
Second, it’s pretty clear that this was distributed to numerous people, as multiple n***as are addressed in the text. Probably, it so distraught one recipient that he passed it along to someone else, either at the fraternity or university level. Which would imply that the university didn’t pry into his email so much as the email was given to them.
Last thing to note - so there are three reason - the guy is a total douchebag.
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Sorry, dude, but way back in the New Wave era I was a horny guy at the beginnings of my 20s, and I would never have dreamed of talking about women or sex this way. I liked the young women I was having sex with, even if it was just a weekend fling.
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I wonder how many are still on the Supreme Court who thinks racism is a thing of the past?
Call me old fashioned, but liking the person you’re having sex with would seem to be the least one could hope for.
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Dean Wormer of Faber, of course.
Who said: “Christ! Seven years of college down the drain. What am I supposed to do? Join the fucking Peace Corps”?
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It does not sound like he could wait that long.
I think it was BlueberryTomatoSoup’s fantasy. You were supposed to lie.
The ones I’ve known… yes. I would trust them with my weed. After all, they’re the ones I buy from.
Fraternities provide the easiest access to beer and liquor since most undergraduates are under age.
I was friendly with some of my dorm mates who were in frats, so I could get liquor pretty easily without joining a stupid frat. Went to the occasional horrible disco party just to get hammered.
I think you’re on to something interesting. When I was going to school, the drinking age in my state, Michigan, was 18, and frats were definitely at a low point of influence around campus. The prohibition of alcohol to 18-21 year-olds in a place where about half of the students are 18-21 might explain the apparent rise in frat popularity after the drinking age was raised, much like bootleggers thrived under Prohibition. So if we want to get rid of all these cases of frat racism and rape, just lower the drinking age back to 18.
So, ladies, you have a choice. You can look for a potential partner in the frats, which filled with cool guys with money who look good, but who are basically walking d**ks that have no respect for you save to get you on your back naked. Or you can look for a potential partner in the nerdy guys who are not cool, but if you do chat with them, they will be very grateful and are much more likely to treat you in a friendly respectful and nice way. It’s up to you. Frat boy attitudes work because women respond to them.
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