Discussion: University Of Cincinnati Allows Richard Spencer To Speak Due To 'Free Speech'

Hope these campuses and their local communities are aware of the flashmob tactic now employed by Spencer. Wouldn’t be surprised if a few of these spring up the night before or after one of these speeches.

Wish that some of these schools would send the security bill - for costs higher than what is par for the course for a generic speaker on campus - to the Spencer’s organization - as most of these are state institutions and the tax payers across the state shouldn’t have to subsidize the Spencer’s provocation tour.

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There are 2 perfect options here, ignore or ridicule.

The best reaction to this is to ignore and turn your back on this Nazi. Silent protesting works best. Do not engage.

Well can I go and throw shit at him? That’s speech, too.

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They can charge Spencer for security, but charging him more than others is iffy. Texas A&M actually solved this problem. Under their new policy, there is no public forum on their campus. Any speaker in any facility must be an invited guest of the University or of one of the recognised student organizations on campus. You can’t invite yourself, or demand use of a facility, or rent a facility.

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A sensible solution.

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I know, right? And from Texas.

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“When and if fascism comes to America it will not be labeled ‘made in Germany’; it will not be marked with a swastika; it will not even be called fascism; it will be called, of course, ‘Americanism.’”

Special thanks to MSNBC’s Joy Reid for publicizing this film today.

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You’d be surprised really, given our state government, but there’s more sense than it ever looks like there is. We actuallly have some pretty progressive laws on our books.

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Fascism evolves from nationalism. And so that’s why it is always local.

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While I appreciate your point that the fertile ground for Nationalism is always local, this case of the German-American Bund specifically evolved from and was funded by the German Nazi Party.

Thanks, that is an interesting policy-decision.

Well I really doubt they could have recruited a very large bunch of people to support German nationalism here in the US without an offer of the same for here,

Exactly, a lot of people on the left need to understand those options. When you show up yelling and screaming at them, you are giving them exactly what they want. Ignore the assholes, or show up and just stand across the street laughing. THAT would drive them nuts. But when you get in their faces and yell/scream/taunt, you are doing exactly what they want. Why would anyone do that?

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I imagine similar reviews are not required of politically left-wing events on campus, and your ‘review’ is therefore unconstitutionally discriminatory in and of itself

See, this is one area where the imagination of White Supremacists fails miserably. Lawyer sets up strawman, knocks it down and proclaims loudly this is discrimination. Said lawyer conveniently forgets the violence that follows his client. Oh yes, says the lawyer, the violence is there,but it is the Left Wing that brings it. In his mind, What happened in CVille only happened Saturday because of a violent AntiFa element, again conveniently forgetting that Rich and the Tiki Torch Crew attacked a group that was peacefully protesting them that Friday night.

He also forgets that his client has aligned himself with groups that have a history of violence- the KKK and Skinheads aren’t known for their polite manners. Make this thrash pay a huge security deposit. Spencer has a think tank, let him find some sugar daddy willing to front him for it.

Lastly, wrapping your hate in political cloth doesn’t make it any less violent or hateful. While Spencer claims the label Alt-Right, it’s still the same trashy privilege that says “we want a homeland for people of European descent, and screw you if you think that should be some country in Europe”. If this is the hill the GOP wants to die on, so be it.

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Just what INTELLECTUAL content does this moron have to offer the university community? Do tell, please.

Why any campus feels that they HAVE to host some Joe Schmoe without any intellectual credentials is far beyond me. And WHY would anyone in a university community bother to go listen to someone who’s simply preaching?

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Apparently UC Berkeley’s campus has now spent over a million dollars for extra security for these people who are only trying to convert people to their ideology. (One for a speaker who never showed up and who had said he would bring ‘stars’ like Coulter --who turned him down) What I fail to understand is how any student at such a university would be thought vulnerable to these preachings?

Has academia become a backwater for the unintelligent? For people who are undiscerning?

Or are these rightwing Neo-Nazis just trying to bankrupt our places of higher education?

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They don’t aim to ‘convert’ Berkley students - they intend to recruit disaffected twenty somethings in the region - who will come to help create a big provocation that makes Berkley students, UC Berkley look bad - and give some red meat to their altright followers that “Antifa” and the “left” are the same and are the real ones who are causing the violence. That’s why I think of this trends not so much political speeches, but as “Provocational-Speeches”. They are seeking, not followers (that is incidental- they do that on line with those who click the bait) but the spectacles that are created - which becomes recruitment clickbait.

geez! whats the problem…just refuse to provide’security’ for these knuckleheads…if the only ones who show up are their followers, then they can just beat on each other…any kid who goes to these events is suspect anyway…