Discussion: Trump To Judge: It'd Be A Shame If 'Nonstop Investigations' Became 'New Normal'

Somehow that sentiment didn’t apply to HRC.

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No Donald the shame is that you’re a phony, grifting, lying, tax dodging, constitution subverting criminal who by his actions have necessitated an investigation.

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and your crime family too

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“Even if Plaintiffs’ documents were somehow crucial, there is no urgency to get them: the subpoenas mostly concern documents from years ago, the Committees waited several months into the 116th Congress before issuing them, and the Committees already agreed to delay enforcement until this Court rules on the motion for a preliminary injunction.”

Irony.

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pshah to Trump: Shame when Presidents commit nonstop corruption and crimes.

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“Even if Plaintiffs’ documents were somehow crucial, there is no urgency to get them: the subpoenas mostly concern documents from years ago, the Committees waited several months into the 116th Congress before issuing them,…"


Nadler will have to directly address this filing. In a few weeks.
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This has never been an issue before because all Presidential candidates and winners since Nixon have voluntarily released many years of tax returns and financial records. We’ve never had a conman president before. If not for the 2018 House take over there would be no investigations of this fraud now.

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Whitewater.

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nice country you got there judge, shame if something happened to it, IYKWIM.

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Of course, ignores the fact that they requested the documents much earlier… Hope the judge castigates Trump’s team for misrepresenting the facts.

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Irony died in November 2016.

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You know what wouldn’t be a shame at all? No full time crime wave in the WH for a change.

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If you can’t stand the heat stay out of the White House.

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From their performance in court, the only shame is how badly the case is constructed on constitutional grounds. It’s basically an attempt to remove any oversight of the president and their policies, and it has no place in our system.

The thing they don’t seem to comprehend is that the Republicans will not always hold the presidency…the next Democrat can do exactly the same things. And, they investigated the last president, and the potential presidential candidate, at a level far deeper than what is being asked here. Do Republicans really expect to hold power forever, or do they think they can change the rules at their whim? They obviously don’t care about a functioning system anymore, their actions are threatening to destroy the nation just to further their own power…and that’s without considering Trump, he’s just a symptom of the disease.

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If Congress is allowed to investigate President Trump’s finances, then future commanders-in-chief will face “nonstop investigations into the[ir] personal lives foreign influences, tax evasion, and sources of emoluments”

Fixed that for you, Trump.

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Maybe this won’t become a slippery-slope problem in the future if we don’t elect any more career criminals as president.

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They don’t care a whit about hypocrisy. If they have the power, they just carry right on. They are shameless and impervious to justified criticism.

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I just scanned the brief. Its a pretty solid case for a preliminary injunction, given the unique nature of the subpoenas – especially since they involve not just Trump, but his family down to his grandchildren.

based on precedent (McGrain v Daugherty) Trump will eventually lose. But I’m not so sure that precedent will not be overturned in this case.

McGrain is the case that established that even the thinnest legislative pretext is all that is necessary to justify compelled testimony and document production (and congress only needs to come up with that pretext after an investigation is challenged). This had led to tremendous abuses — and has resulted in claims that Congress has the power to investigate whoever it wants to, whenever it feels like, for any reason whatsoever.

In other words, it s a precedent that has been abused in the past, and is ripe for reconsideration. And given the GOP slant of the Supreme Court, it would be unsurprising if Trump won at least part of this case.

Yes, it has been argued that beginning with non-subpoena requests would serve to impress the courts.

Now Judge Ramos, an Obama appointee and a good jurist, will have to respond to that argument – and all arguments raised by the plaintiffs.

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Can you say Whitewater?

ETA. I see Castor already did.

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