Discussion: Trump To Judge: It'd Be A Shame If 'Nonstop Investigations' Became 'New Normal'

It’d Be A Shame If ‘Nonstop Criminal Behavior’ Became ‘New Normal’ for future commanders-in-chief.

TFIFY.

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Yes. Yes they do.

They’re busy packing the courts with corrupt right wing judges. They’re busy suppressing the vote with corrupt Republican legislatures. They’re busy courting foreign oligarchs for money and cyber-criminal influence.

And in the off chance the Dem’s recover the presidency - they rest in the confirmed knowledge that the Dem’s think of themselves as ‘the party of comity and good governance’ - and will ‘reach across the aisle in bipartisanship’ - thereby moving the Overton Window farther to the right.

Yes. They believe this coup will succeed.

And I’m not convinced it won’t.

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BENGHAZI!!!

(commenting system says I need to be more descriptive…crap system…in more ways than one.)

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Umm…see Clinton, Bill and Hillary

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I disagree. The basis of THIS suit isn’t that Congress has no power to investigate the President. Its that Congress is grossly over-reaching its authority with these subpoenas into not just Trump’s pre-presidential personal finances, but that of his entire family as well.

And I happen to think its a really good argument – but for it to succeed, McGrain would have to be overturned (at least in part)

(I would also point out that the letter sent to Nadler claiming that the House can’t investigate the president as such was not a court filing – its merely a political letter.)

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Throw in a bit of markup code like this with the spaces closed: < p >

Won’t print or take up space and you won’t get that dumb message.

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the Committees waited several months into the 116th
    Congress before issuing them

and if this filing works …

we’ll consider dragging our feet to appoint anyone to
relevant committees to have worked —

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Yeah, I know.

I put that in the comments on the (futile) off-chance that someone from TPM looks in and maybe, maybe someday corrects the damned bug.

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If Congress is allowed to investigate President Trump’s finances, then future commanders-in-chief will face “nonstop investigations into the[ir] personal lives,” Trump argued in a Wednesday court filing.

Our commanders-in-chief shouldn’t have personal lives. We need to know what could be corrupting them, especially after the extreme corruption displayed by this administration.

I need to hear someone make this argument in the mainstream media. Given the levels of corruption we’re already discovering, our future leaders should have little expectation of privacy, at least when it comes to their personal finances.

Also, it should be pointed out that there wouldn’t need to be investigations if Trump – or future leaders – were as transparent as they were supposed to be.

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“The Committees’ position means that nonstop investigations into the personal lives of Presidents (motivated by the hope of finding politically damaging information) will be the new normal whenever the President is from a different political party than the House or Senate.”

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Rethugs believe they can change the rules at their win because it’s what they do. Just ask the most evil man in D.C., Mitch McConnell.

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I would go so far as to say it’s carefully constructed …

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Yes, Republicans really expect to hold power forever, and yes, they think they can change the rules at their whim. They are fascists and this is how fascists operate.

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This is a great argument for laws compelling full disclosure of the finances of candidates and office holders.

But its not a good one for letting congress conduct investigations that have no constitutionally based purpose – and which, in fact, flyi in the face of the intent behind the prohibition of “bills of attainder”. Congress has the power to investigate every aspect of a president’s life and record — its called “impeachment”. Either use it, or back off – but lets stop pretending that its okay for Congress to abuse its oversight powers against Trump just because the GOP did so against Clinton.

The abuse of congressional power is not necessary because “impeachment” can be invoked.

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Ever notice that when Trump knows he is losing, he tries to puff himself up by only referring to the Presidency as “The Commander-in-Chief”?

What a sad little man he is.

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I agree. I wonder how we can operate as a two-party system when one of the parties is committed to the destruction of democracy for their own ends. If and when the GOP is defeated, isn’t the only choice to try to keep them out of power at all costs, meaning that the Dems will have to resort to undemocratic means in their turn? What a disaster.

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“Even if Plaintiffs’ documents were somehow crucial, there is no urgency to get them: the subpoenas mostly concern documents from years ago, the Committees waited several months into the 116th Congress before issuing them, and the Committees already agreed to delay enforcement until this Court rules on the motion for a preliminary injunction,” personal attorneys for the President write."

The House did everything possible to not turn oversight into a continuous witch hunt, but oversight is still wrong and unnecessary, because the President is (supposedly) a good boy.

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“The next thing you know,” his attorneys argued, “Congress will be investigating things as trivial as lying about a blow job.”

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But her emails!

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“Only the Best” get hired by Trump.

There are a long list of Trump lawyers that need to have their licenses revoked for plain stupidity.

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