Unconstitutional?
Yes. The Congress cannot ignore a veto and declare a bill law.
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The scum-sucking GOP knew there arenāt enough votes to override the veto, so 12 chicken-shit Senators voted no to give the appearance of being reasonable. Ha! Now that itās vetoed, there wonāt be a Senate override and the GOP wins another cynical battle. Schumer made a huge mistake by praising the 12 Senators for voting no. Now the GOP gets praise AND no override. The Dems need to play this frigginā game for keeps.
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Iād promise to stop masterbaiting -----
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The National Emergency Act simply says that āthe President is authorized to declare such national emergencyā without setting any standards, so Barr is correct that Trumpās declaration falls clearly within the letter of the law. Now if one were to look into the intent of the law or were to interpret it with regards to the clear, everyday meaning of the words then Trump is not on very stable ground. Even though he is a stable genius with all the best words.
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Damn. I was hoping no one would tell him just tweeting āVETOā didnāt count.
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True enough. But if the president is unable to understand an official action that his handlers attribute to him, itās not the president who is denied the veto if Congress refuses to accept it. Only the president can veto. His handlers canāt.
Sure, itās not clear that Trump is categorically unable to understand this veto he supposedly decided on. Heās not in a coma. What would you say about a veto that came out of the ICU room where a president lay in a coma? if you say that the House would have a duty to ignore that pretended act of the president, then you are admitting that ignoring a veto is within the power of the Congress, as long as there is a reasonable presentation that it wasnāt the president who did the veto. It is in fact the duty of Congress to not allow anyone but the president to exercise the veto.
If you are convinced 100% that Trump understood his emergency declaration and his veto sufficiently, then by all means you should not be in favor of ignoring his veto. That would be a usurpation of his powers and duties.
I believe that Trump doesnāt understand his emergency declaration. He showed in announcing it that he doesnāt understand what emergency declarations are for, or the really basic point that Congress and Congress alone can appropriate money. An emergency declaration is a legal workaround, a delegation in law of that appropriations power made for the express purpose of covering situations not foreseen at the time the last annual appropriations were made by Congress. The president has to make the claim that the need for the intended expenditure was not foreseen by Congress, yet Trump admitted the exact opposite, that he had tried to get money for Wall from Congress, but was refused.
Sure, thatās not a slam dunk proof that Trump doesnāt understand this very basic idea. Maybe he understands this basic parameter of his job as well as Obama, and just doesnāt care that heās breaking the law in his declaration of an emergency that he admits isnāt an unforeseen emergency.
Iām being kind and favorable to Trump in seeing him as demented rather than criminal. My argument is that a criminal would not have admitted that he was committing a crime. The declaration itself could be seen as the act of a criminal, but the announcement proves the absence of criminal intent. Maybe the downgrade from criminal to patient is why you resist the idea that the president is not exempted by anything in the Constitution from the same scrutiny for mental incapacity that all of us live under for all of our actions. You donāt have to believe that itās 100% certain that Trump is non compos mentis to make him prove that heās competent, you just have to believe that itās not entirely clear that he is compos mentis, at least sufficiently competent to discharge the powers and duties.
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To include a plain meaning definition of national emergency.
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We are almost a month into Trumpās fake emergency, and this is the first sign of action by the White House.
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(gag response)
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"Deepest Sympathy and Best Wishes "
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There must have been a Hallmark card lying around somewhere.
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And take fifty billion dollars from you, because I lied about Mexico paying for it, and you knew I lied but let me.
Same as a hot Hollywood chick.
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Congress have him something to do.
Well gee, Donnie, I guess now you can feel like a real grownup.
Schmuck!
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So he is trying to play this as a win? What a joke. Non stop punditry on every station saying he has been humiliated by the rebuke from congress and he thinks this is going to somehow help him? He truly is a sad, pathetic little man.
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Jeebus, not one word about cyber security or election security or grid security or any of the things we are getting our asses handed to us over. Sniffing drugs at the borderā¦our biggest drug problems come from our medical system and pharma companies. Building fairy walls while we get trounced and played by Putin and China courtesy of the Immeasurable Dope
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Crap!
The Pussy Grabber in Chief is still alive.
Every time I open my internet pages Iām hoping for good news.
Instead I get tramp did something or other that canāt be good for America.
SAD!!!
Should be the war cry against any RW hack, yacker, or argument you get in with rubes. You are whining and crying about an already well guarded and regulated border while MegaFuck gives away your country in huge chunks. He has Russian thugs and Saudis and Chinese pimps crawling all over YOUR White House. No wall can stop Chump from continuing to sell YOU and your country into oblivion. Treachery and Treason have ever been more deadly and fatal than border squabbles.
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Itās possible to be both. And he is.
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