Discussion: Trump Reportedly Asked Aides For 'Way Out' Of Campaign Pledge To End DACA

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Jesus, you shuffle your feet, don’t bring it up ever again, and tell assholes like Sessions that they are free to resign if they don’t like it…

That was your way out… you ignore it, like all other presidents have done with unworkable or deeply unpopular campaign pledges… you pretend you never made it, you spectacularly incompetent dipshit.

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I call bullshit on all these stories, with just one caveat.

The lawsuit that was being brought by the states actually has a pretty decent chance of being successful and forcing the WH’s hand here.

But I honestly have a hard time believing that factors into the decision making process on this at all.

A far more likely scenario is Trump is growing increasingly worried about the investigations into him and his family, and is looking to build up support with his core base ahead of the inevitable rain of boots from the sky that is coming.

But the strategy of waiting 6 months to let Congress craft a DACA legislative solution? That ain’t going to happen. They have been tossing that potato around for 16 years.

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Yeah I don’t get why he didn’t do what he usually does act like he didn’t say it and claim it was all fake news

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Trump will not announce the decision himself, instead leaving the announcement to Sessions. Typical, gutless, duplicitous behavior from the coward in chief. And pretending to wait 6 months to give Congress a chance to act is a sham. Congress has too many other things on its plate right now to deal with DACA and Trump has not indicated that he will sign a law authorizing DACA if it comes to his desk. I suspect he will eventually try to use DACA as leverage with the Democrats to either end the ACA of fund the border wall, or both.

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There are binders full of campaign promises Trump and the GOP would like to go away.

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A pretty laughable strategy, but its probably being batted around in the WH, I agree.

The problem with it, and any legislative strategy from the WH, is Trump has zero credibility or pull with Congress…including his own party.

When Boehner and McConnell were dealing with Pelosi, Reid and Obama…they knew that they were all basically on the same page with strategy, and just tiny little differences on tactics.

That isn’t the case now. Ryan is not on the same page with McConnell, and neither one of them is on the same page with Trump. Indeed, all three are fighting among themselves. So who are Pelosi and Schumer supposed to work with to craft a DACA solution? Which one of them could actually speak…reliably and believably, for rest of their respective caucuses? And who has any idea what the hell Trump will want to do?

Oh yeah…there is also way too much on Congress’s plate as is. There will be legislative DACA solution.

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Batting the ball over to the Do-Nothing Congress. That’s really fixing Washington, eh Donnie? Way to drain the swamp. And when they have done nothing 6 months from now, then what? Give them another 6 months?

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Trump will not announce the decision himself, instead leaving the announcement to Sessions. The attorney general is set to announce the policy change Tuesday at 11 a.m.

A real profile in courage, this.

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It will be a half-assed solution that short changes the Dreamers, piling on more cruelty and also eating away at the margins of what Obama granted them. Republicans will convince precisely the number of members needed for passage, in combination with Dem votes, to get it to Trump’s desk, and not one vote more. That will allow the maximum number of GOPers to claim they were in favor of ejecting the terrorist brown schemers. It won’t be a veto proof margin, so Trump will get the blame if he buries it, with Congress saying “Hey, we tried to be decent, don’t blame us.”

It doesn’t matter if the crowd in the square wants to cut the pickpocket a break. All it takes is a few vocal rabble rousers to whip them into sufficient frenzy to hold the lynching, Xenophobes, bigots and misogynists run the nation now. And the crowd is plenty happy to pack a picnic for the lynchings.

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So here we find out that our Dear Leader is not only thoughtless but also gutless.

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Bingo
Your interpretation is the only one that makes sense. When did Donald ever give a rat’s behind about breaking a promise?
But along with Cohn’s “uncriticizable” status… We are not dealing with a crazy man here.
OK, I’ll give you 20 per cent crazy.
Thirty, tops.
As of this morning.

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Sign of a real Leader too.

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I think that is the optimistic scenario.

My guess is, that no bill is even voted upon in either the House or the Senate. Its certainly not going to come up in the remainder of this year…debt ceiling, passing a short term CR, disaster funding…those three things are more than this Congress can handle. Toss is the pressure to pass tax cuts and to do away with ACA, ongoing and still exploding revelations regarding the Russian investigations and the escalating North Korea situation? Oh…and who really thinks Trump won’t create ANOTHER issue on an entirely different front before the years out?

No DACA legislation even sees the light of day this year.

Next year doesn’t look much better. The short term CR issue alone is setup to become a major issue again, right at the height of the campaign season. Republicans taking up an issue like DACA while running for re-election? Not gonna happen.

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Kelly’s a fucking racist nativist too. He’d like to deport them tomorrow, no doubt.

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I agree that is the most logical route this travels. However, there is an entire thick file on every one of these dreamers. They’re not akin to all the other “illegal” immigrants that are here, many living off the grid so to speak. If DACA is ended I fail to see what option the government has but to begin picking each and every one of them up and returning them to wherever. To shut down DACA and then do nothing isn’t an option.
The public never tires of the cat stuck in the tree on the evening news. Similarly, each and every detainment and ejection will be noted. People losing valued, treasured coworkers. Universities losing rising stars. Homes and cars given back to banks. Small businesses shuttered, with legal citizens losing their jobs. Marriages torn asunder. Children of Dreamers pulled from their schools. How anyone gaming this out fails to see it for the epic, ongoing public relations disaster it would become is tough to comprehend. All the above argues for something getting done once whatever time constraint Trump’s rumored action imposes. Letting DACA dies is madness.

That said, madness has taken over. So maybe it does just all go to hell.

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I’m surprised he didn’t kick it over to Steve King or Kris Kobach. I suppose Sessions is the one charged with enforcing the laws of the United States, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see King and Kobach on the podium with him. Just for (im)moral support.

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Trump will just say that only the criminals are being deported, and his 30-something percent base will be unmoved.

That’s interesting - you think DACA might be illegal anyway?

Hopefully the era of executive action quick-fixes to avoid congress doing its job is coming to an end. I’ve said it before - this is no way to run a country. There needs to be some tough decisions made on who is allowed to stay permanently, who can stay temporarily, and who should be kicked out, with strong sanctions for those that operate outside of the law.

Meanwhile the remaining 70% watch deportation after deportation on the local and national news for the 1-2-3 years it would take to send almost a million people who knows where. I don’t see that as politically tenable.

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