Discussion: Trump Rebukes 'Monstrous Terrorist Attack' In NZ: 'Horrible, Horrible Thing'

We already saw 59 men and women gunned down in Las Vegas, with hundreds more injured. That was on Trump’s watch. He shrugged and did nothing, which is mostly all he has the energy, curiosity, or motivation to do.

The country mostly has to survive the relative vacuum in the oval office. It’s been rocky, but that’s mostly what we’ve done.

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We have a large scale terrorist incident AND a national disaster. In the Oval Office.

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The statement was better than I expected but much less than what should be expected from an American President. There was nothing to address the pain of the Muslim community who are being targeted and hunted by white nationalists.

After this statement, he then goes off on ‘invasions’ across the border from brown folks running away from desperate situations and calls them criminals. So Trump continues to perpetuate the same themes that give rise to white nationalism. He later dismisses the white nationalist threat.

Trump stokes white nationalism, but I think it’s important to note he pushes the buttons that are already there. We’ve got a lot of folks in this country who fear demographic change and essentially believe the ‘replacement ideology’ that Josh writes about in his editorial about the killer’s manifesto. Trump brings more polish to what people like Steve King, Paul LePage and Tucker Carlson say daily. But we need to look at white nationalism as a grassroots view of GOP voters, not something that emanates or was imposed from top-down. The reason Trump continues to self-immolate over the wall and this national emergency declaration is because he needs to keep up the myth that he has a sense of urgency over demographic change, and he uses brown skinned immigrants crossing the border as the metaphor for keeping that going. That’s what the caravan trope was about. In reality, he makes more money off of foreigners than he does from Americans. You can see it in all the grift related money he generates from Russians, Saudis, Emiratis, Chinese, Indians, Malays and Israelis. If he fails to connect with those voters on the urgency they feel over demographic change, he loses that base because the rest of what he has to offer is not very appealing.

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Reporter: “Mr. President, do you feel there’s any to the charges that your nationalist rhetoric is feeding stochastic terrorism?”

President Trump: “My excellent words regarding my bigly success at Wharton had nothing to do with the liberal college entrance scandals.”

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It feels like this paragraph from Josh should be appended to the article:

[Trump] gave a generic condemnation of the massacre in Christchurch, New Zealand and then proceeded to give a meandering speech about foreign “invasion”, i.e., immigrants “rushing our border”, calling them “murderers and killers”. In other words, moments after denouncing the massacre he went on with a lie-laden screed much of which was indistinguishable from the attacker’s manifesto.

In fact, Moments After Denouncing Massacre Trump Continued With Lie-Laden Screed That Was Indistinguishable From Attacker’s Manifesto would have been a good headline too.

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Trump has trouble linking White Supremacists to Terrorism. After all many of his friends and assistants like Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon, Kirstjen Nielsen are avowed White Supremacists and are not shooting up mosques or synagogues. They do the right thing and build concentration camps, that’s not terrorism.

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…all the enthusiasm of ordering from a restaurant menu.

I’'l have a Big Mac, terrorist, Mosque, fries, the veto rally here in the Oval Office, and a coke.

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One of his staff, or one of the myriad governments and foreign intelligence agencies who’ve hacked his unsecured iPhone.

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He not only pushes them, he validates them. That’s worse.

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I think his racist voters know what they believe. They just click into gear when Trump finds the right words and dog whistles to connect to those hot buttons. It’s also why his numbers go down when he’s doing stuff like whacking the ACA or more Russia stuff. It doesn’t connect where they’re at.

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So 100% of the United States of America, and 0% of Mur’ca.

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Shouldn’t that be “radical white supremacist terrorist”? Because some of those just plain old “white supremacists” are fine people.

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We’ve all been seeing what went on, it’s a horrible, horrible thing.

A Terrorist attack is not a ‘thing’, it’s an attack on a religion their ability to practice their religion.

At an evening rally in southern Illinois, the president said the “monstrous” attacks “require all of us working together to extract the hateful poison of anti-Semitism from our world. This was an anti-Semitic attack at its worst. The scourge of anti-Semitism cannot be ignored, cannot be tolerated, and it cannot be allowed to continue.
“It must be confronted and condemned everywhere it rears its ugly head.

Tump’s comment after the attack the Pittsburgh mass shooting at a synaogogue. Didn’t call it a ‘thing’, he used the proper noun.

And which group of people hate Muslims and Jews?

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It’s what he does best, because if it’s not happening below the waist, what does it matter.

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“You may have chosen us. But we utterly reject and condemn you.” Jacinda Arden, Prime Minister of New Zealand, to White Nationalist Terrorists.

Simple, forceful, and apparently impossible for Republicans to say.

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“They’re just learning about the person and the people involved.”

You’re one of the people involved!

In the same way that Mao was involved with the Shining Path movement in Peru, or Charles Manson in the attacks carried out by his followers, so too Trump is the spiritual leader of an international movement of deranged grievance-tormented white men who he has activated and continues to inspire to scapegoat non-whites for all their problems.

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Trump may tweet something horrible at her. She was not pleased.

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Too goddamned many for my taste.

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