Discussion: Trump Proclaims Second Amendment 'WILL NEVER BE REPEALED'

Never’s a long time.

And “never” has been used for too many things that now “are.”

Of course, one should never expect that Spanky, the Orange Buffoon, Current Occupant in the Oval Office would appreciate this. Reading history is far beyond his feeble intellectural capacity.

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I am sure someone said that on Fox as a reason Why We Have To Elect Republicans In The MidTerms - and Trump!

Voila a lazy trump tweet - with all caps no less. I am sure his fanbase is both cheering and frothing at the mouth.

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Ya but you will be chump
and as @lizzymom says
Chickens before they’re hatched
Tell someone in 1950 a Black man would spend 8 years a President and that gay , lesbian and transgender people would be openly serving in the military and in government.
They would have had you committed.
Those young people have had enough and they are the next generation of legislators and supreme court justices.
Maybe not in my lifetime, but hope for the future

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We don’t need to repeal the 2nd to enact a ban on semi-automatic weapons and common sense gun reform measures.

Don’t let the NRA tell you what Scalia wrote in the Heller decision, they are lying,.

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It’s not necessary to repeal the Second Amendment, just regulate and order better the “militia” referred to in that crucial introductory clause. Even Scalia, in the Heller decision, wrote that nothing in that amendment precludes placing restrictions on types of weapons and who can possess or have access to them.

So, let’s see–and insist upon–some regulating, then.

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Yes–we’ ve just cross-posted, I see.

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Ya the minority
A February 2013 survey found that 37% of adults reported having a gun in their household, with 24% saying they personally owned the gun and 13% saying it was owned by someone else in their home. The survey also found that 58% of people who did not have a gun in their household said that having a gun would make them feel uncomfortable.
The NRA’s 5 million members only comprise somewhere between 6 and 7 percent of American gun owners. That would imply that the overwhelming majority of American gun owners – over 90 percent of them – do not belong to the NRA.

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The idea that someone could even suggest this publicly would have seemed impossible even a few months ago.

I suspect it won’t happen, but the Overton window is shifting, and it means that common sense gun control laws supported by over 80% of Americans may become more viable.

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I’d say if the 2A guaranteed the right to cannibalism it would still be unlikely to be repealed because it’s hard to repeal things. What this tweet means is Trump would prefer not to be impeached. From now until November he’ll connect every damn thing that happens to the supposed unpleasant consequences of that for America, the world and universe including and especially his base. If there’s a major eruption somewhere he’ll be all we need more Republicans or the volcanoes will win and so forth.

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I don’t think the 2nd Amendment will be repealed but shifting the political discussion to repeal puts the NRA on the defensive and might soften them up for real reform.

I think Justice Stevens knows that the law allows for reasonable regulations of firearms and nothing proposed so far can be considered unreasonable

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Yes, the Florida high schoolers have been advocating for reforms that are achievable today. Unfortunately, this talk of revoking the second amendment may well energize the NRA and those saying there will be a domino effect. It’s time to shut up and be sensible.

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You know Trump could not pass a basic quiz on the constitution so the one amendment that his desiccated mind fixates on is the one about guns.
I bet if you explained the 3rd amendment to him about quartering soldiers he would say everyone should have a army in their house.

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I imagine the NRA and Republicans could be convinced to repeal the 2nd Amendment. All that would be needed is to work out a compromise; the 2nd gets axed, and in exchange so do the 13th, 14th, and 15th. They’d jump at that in a minute.

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The NRA has never had the numbers. Instead they have had the intensity. Their people vote no matter what. What has been missing until now has been intensity on the reasonable regulation side That is what the high school kids have brought to this debate. In a vote of highly intense gun supporters versus highly intense gun opponents the opponents will win because they out number the supporters by a wide margin. .

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Justice Stevens was appointed by Republican Jerry Ford. The president Ford had served under as VP and subsequently replaced advocated for a total handgun ban.
“I don’t know why any individual should have a right to have a revolver in his house,” Nixon said in a taped conversation with aides. “The kids usually kill themselves with it and so forth.” He asked why “can’t we go after handguns, period?”

“Nixon went on: “I know the rifle association will be against it, the gun makers will be against it.” But “people should not have handguns.” He laced his comments with obscenities, as was typical.”
https://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/gun-control-richard-nixon-wished-…
With Nixon you never know. Was he test marketing it as reverse psychology as a way to get his conservative and increasingly Southern base fired up? As the term was called then the “Modified limited hangout” Or was a sincere conviction of his.

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Just red meat for his base. Trump doesn’t realize that the President has no say in the matter. It is entirely between Congress and the states. It’s not something that the President has to sign off on. If he had ever read the Constitution, he would know this.

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Which really makes you wonder how they have managed to create such a chokehold, doesn’t it?

Kinda like the fear Limbaugh (fun fact: “ugh” is even in his name) and his dittoheads instilled for years – in spite of, like the NRA, being a miniscule percentage of voters. BTW, they seemed to have lost whatever they had, you just don’t hear so much any more — perhaps it won’t be so long before the NRA is also just seen as fringe loonies too.

@ronbyers

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Thanks to those kids , that third rail has had the power shut off and they are jumping up and down on it.

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