Discussion: Trump Likely Paid No Fed Taxes For Almost Twenty Years

No I don’t feel any better either. My point is never piss on people you are going to need. My surprise is discovering Hillary didn’t remember that bit of common wisdom.

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They’ve had that theme going for quite some time. There was an ad weeks or months ago with a guy who supplied pianos to the casinos. They make the deal, the guy signs the papers and delivers the pianos, then Trump says he’s not paying the full amount. The poor guy tried to fight but they did what they always do—say take us to court, knowing the little guy can’t win. The only remedy is one most people can’t afford.

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Glad there’s a post up about this. Too much going on to take the day off (yesterday, too?), and one or two posts don’t require too much effort, I hope.

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I’ll bet 2-5 it’s Ivanka or Jared. Trump is killing them.

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There have been ads along these lines tentatively running in Ohio, right? Time to kick some more money into that front so they can hit all the major markets.

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Completely agree, Nemo. I’m certainly no tax expert, but it seems to me if you declare bankruptcy to avoid paying your creditors, then you shouldn’t also get to also claim tax deductions from that as well.

I don’t know exactly what he did here, but if it was legal, we have a very corrupt tax system that needs a complete overhaul. And for Guliani to even attempt to compare it to how some poor people don’t pay taxes is insane.

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You realize it’s October, right?
All but the unreachable have made their way into the (D) fold.

But hey, if July keeps floating to the top of of your commode?
I’m not sure anything is going flush that one.

jw1

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I know it’s been stated several times, but I’m not understanding why all the headlines, including TPM’s, are burying the lede.

How did Mr. Super Bidnessman manage to lose a Billion Dollars in the 90s?? On a casino??

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Absolutely delusional.

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Casinos usually are winners for the house, that is. How does such a great businessman lose nearly One Billion in the casino business? He is a lousy businessman, UNFIT, UNQUALIFIED, AMORAL and must be stopped.

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To be fair, it wasn’t just a casino. It was a casino, an airline and a hotel.

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Don’t you just love it?

Edited to add: Just saw on ABC News that HO’s unfavorability rating went up 5 points after the debate.

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The degraded Giuliani is now calling the Earned Income Tax Credit a “loophole”! He truly is the worst person alive.

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I’ve always thought the “October Surprise” would be the press finally releasing everything they have on HO. They do enjoying tearing down those they’ve built up.

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What may make Trump hesitate to sue the NYT is that to sue based on illegal disclosure of his tax returns, he would presumably have to state that the returns are authentic. (The Times’ wording of Trump’s lawyer’s legal threat suggests that it would be based on illegally obtaining accurate documents, rather than suing for libel and claiming the Times’ reporting is false.)
At a panel at Harvard University last month, New York Times executive editor Dean Baquet said he would “seriously fight” to publish Trump’s tax returns if the newspaper were able to obtain them, even if lawyers advised against it. The reason, he explained, is Trump’s “whole campaign is built on his success as a businessman and his wealth.”
I would GLADLY contribute to a defense fund for Baquet and I would contribute repeatedly. Well done Mr. Baquet. Finally some actual journalism and guts. Congrats as well to to Farenthold and Ehrenreich for their actual reporting on the Trump snake oil and fraud machine. Kudos to all three.

This could be monumental.

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Sen. Bernie Sanders, who made wealth inequality a top campaign issue, said that assuming Trump’s tax strategy was legal, “what it tells you is you have a corrupt tax system which says to ordinary people, you’re supposed to pay your taxes. But if you’re a billionaire, there are all kinds of loopholes that you can utilize that enable you … not to pay anything in taxes.”

Exactly, let’s celebrate The Taker Trump for not paying Federal Income Taxes but let’s berate the poor for the same. The Dumpster gets a pass because “he paid, sales, property, etc taxes” but again let’s berate the poor when they do the exact same thing…

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October 2 or not without the taxes story, we would be talking about the Clinton comments today. She got lucky.

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PBO is not perfect. But he learned early on the value of being unflappable. He very rarely stumbles from losing his cool, and not at all after his first year in office.

NOT losing your shit over big stuff is a big, learned adult skill. NOT losing your shit over tiny stuff should be a big, learned, kindergarten skill.

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Exactly it is corporate for profits thus 10% at best taxes but losses are personal therefore long term write-offs…

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From the article:

Don’t you think a man who has this kind of economic genius is a lot better for the United States than a woman, and the only thing she’s ever produced is a lot of work for the FBI checking out her emails,” Giuliani told ABC’s “This Week.”

“Don’t you think a man…is a lot better than a woman, and…”

No, I don’t think I’m taking Giuliani’s words out of context here. He could have used the words this man and this woman to clearly refer to the candidates in particular, or something along those lines, without making it about their genders, but that’s not what he did. It’s “a man” and “a woman.”

Then there’s the “and” clause following the words a woman: in addition to her being apparently the inferior sex, she also didn’t “produce” anything, ever, in her public life. He is a New Yorker saying this about the woman who was his Senator during 9/11 (not to mention Secretary of State).

Campaign hyperbole is one thing but this is pure naked misogyny.

(New York, I’m tired of y’all looking down your noses at Texans electing Texas politicians.) :confused:

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