Really want to see that person have a meltdown? Remind him that he promised, if elected, to release all of his tax returns.
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Pence was our governor and very disliked, at least in this part of the state. Religious fanatic, not very bright, but probably sane. In this household we consider him truly deplorable, but he would be better than Trump in being sane, probably less involved in foreign entanglements, probably considerably less corrupt, and with some experience in governing, though he was not very good at it.
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Yes, but the cage will be greatly rattled, Pence will be easy to intimidate, heâd be POTUS by default not election and easy to beat next time. Sure, heâll do a bunch of unsavory stuff, try to over turn Roe etc., but I donât think heâll get too far and whatever he does manage to get through might be more fixable than the catastrophe trump would bring.
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Go Jill Stein! Trump must be disappointed that the Russians are not actually pro-Trump, just pro-anarchy in the UK. Er, USA.
One thing youâll find out about the Russians, theyâre fickle friends.
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âMeanwhile, Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. says Trump offered him the job of Secretary of Education, but he turned it down for personal reasons.â
Kinda buried that news at the end, huh? Has this been separately confirmed by someone other than Falwell himself?
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I guess we should start naming all cabinet posts after their opposites.
E.g. Secretary of Miseducation, National Insecurity Advisor, etc.
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The main problem here is that we have a scale of govât that requires quite an involved transition, and yet we have rules that do not confirm a winner until two weeks before election dayâwhich is when Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes. This is not workable and should be changed. There is not a bone in my body that wants Trump as my president, but at this point, given Obamaâs welcoming him as the incoming executive and Clintonâs concession, I am unenthusiastic about seeking any other result. Information, sure. Weâll see what happens. I am not inherently opposed to the electoral college concept as a way to prevent large states from running roughshod over small states, and I recognize that without this sort of protection, we would likely not exist as one country, but the current timeframes are unworkable, as is the absence of standard voting procedure.
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Iâd be somewhat reassured if the WI PA MI recounts donât turn up Russian involvement. For that sake alone, itâs worth doing. Or, if they do turn up Russian involvement, thatâd be interesting too.
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Easy enough to counter: âDonald Trump, when he thought he was going to lose, warned us all about election fraud. Whatâs he trying to hide now?â
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I agree with Trump, if we could say the election was over and the vote has been audited and verified. But he canât say that. Indeed, we may never figure out what happened in PA, a state that is still dragging its feet on secure voting.
From a Computerworld article:
States should look at two kinds of voting audits, he recommended. Risk-limiting audits, now in place in California and Colorado, are statistically sound audits based on a recount of a small sample of ballots, he noted.
âThatâs cheap,â he said. âThatâs something literally you can learn how to do â without being a statistician â in a day, and you can perform the recount in an afternoon.â
Secondly, voting officials can run parallel-testing audits, if they have extra voting machines. Officials randomly select machines to pull out of the voting process and run a mock election on those machines, using poll workers. With the parallel test, officials can check for malicious activity on those test machines.
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Thatâs what jumped out at me, too. If this is so, shouldnât it be rather widely known? And condemned?
OK, just searched and found this:
Holy shit. And oh what an apt pun I just unintentionally made.
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There is a fundamental difference that transcends mere politics:
Trump is a danger to the system. Pence is not.
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Wired hits a moderate tone that seems quite reasonable.
American elections should be both auditable and audited. And not as a special measure when one party asks for it, but whenever the vote comes within a certain statistically chosen margin. That means both replacing bad voting machines that donât have a paper trail, and changing state laws around the country to give automatic election audits real teeth.
One would have thought this would have been a topic, since the Illinois and Arizona voter databases were hacked last summer. Again Wired,
After all, US voter registration records have been practically public for years, often sold to data brokers who resell it to political campaigns and marketers.
The effort seemed geared of copying the full database, not just possibly 200k voters in the IL database.
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Whoever ends up being the 46th POTUS will actually have to go on an apology tour.
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I donât recall Hitler apologizing in 1933 after the German election or Mussolini in 1942 after it was clear that his brand of fascism wasnât working.
What is interesting to me is that Italian fascism specifically condemned American decadence. Trump, the Mango Mandarin of Opulence and Marbled Steak, is in the eyes of his public, the perfect punisher for the other plutocrats, because he already knows all their tricks, from tax avoidance to collecting trophy human furniture. His ability to out-decadent others is his, ahem, trump card.
If you donât believe in punisher psychology, you will. Hereâs a letter from a Trump supporter to a California mosque.
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Well, from one scam artist to another? Or, maybe heâs getting a little nervous that something fishy might be found out in the recounts?
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I have to admit that watching Trump squirm is worth the effort in and of itself. Youâll notice that he didnât have anything to say until it actually started working⌠thatâs kind of curious, donât you think?
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Crass and repugnant. A real loser as a human being.
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Rodrigo Duterte is waitingâŚ
âbut at this point, given Obamaâs welcoming him as the incoming executive and Clintonâs concession, I am unenthusiastic about seeking any other result.â
Seriously? Even if the result was due to fraud or tampering? Thatâs not something that can just be allowed to slide, even if it is inconvenient.
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