Discussion: Trump: European Union Is A 'Foe' & My Dad Was Born In Germany (He Wasn't)

I think I have it now. And no discussions on grammar or punctuation. The last innocent question I asked left carnage in that regard.

“where you can’t vividly imagine people checking on what you say”

That is what befuddles me. They will move heaven and earth to make sure that they cannot be questioned. Grand schemes will be made to shore up the untruths and deliberate omissions. They are aware and then are not. It is really freaky to think through.

Trump’s exclusion of personnel during the Putin meeting is a good example of what I have run into. He, as well as Putin control the narrative completely. Having personnel that can and will verify or not, what was said is per poison to them both.

I am willing to bet that Trump and Putin will announce some grand step forward, when it has already been prearranged. More gas lighting.

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Sounding more and more like “The Boys from Brazil” was probably a documentary.

Clumsily phrased out of careless haste. Briefly, I’ve read that severe narcissistic personality disorder can be precipitated by a trauma, one side effect of which is to destroy the victim’s ability to hope that things will get better in the future. (People speculate it was Trump’s being sent off to a military school as a punishment.) With that hope gone, there’s not much point in imagining the future at all. So it becomes hazy, indistinct, an unknown country. At any rate, Trump certainly seems to inhabit a perpetual present, where the past doesn’t contain facts or statements he himself made that contradict present statements, and the future doesn’t contain people checking and saying, “Hey, you you said something that isn’t true and contradicts what you said two days ago.”

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Thank you so much for this! It’s just a little jolt of fresh air. Creative, funny, and all of them on our side (as opposed to the side of the ding-dong who’s wrecking our country).

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Even the French admit the Brits are funny.

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Somewhere that he can call everyone “Mr. Florence.”

**Typical cell ADX Florence, "The Alcatraz of the Rockies"

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“it is a wise child that knows his own father.” William Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice, and the Odyssey.

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“Great Poisoners of the World, The Kremlin Kreeps”

But sure, the EU is our foe and “Putin is Fine”. Make sure Bolton or Sanders taste stuff first, Slobo-Don.

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In two weeks I will make my 14th trip to Europe. I learn so much every time I go. Since my grandchildren are half French and we gathered to watch “Les Bleus” win the World Cup this morning I guess I’m on the wrong side with the European Union. But I think I’ll get Euros anyway and tell everyone who asks that Trump is a horse’s backside and a temporary embarrassment. “Vive la France”

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The rural slant was emphasized in another article in the same issue:

EVERY system for converting votes into power has its flaws. Britain suffers from an over-mighty executive; Italy from chronically weak government; Israel from small, domineering factions. America, however, is plagued by the only democratic vice more troubling than the tyranny of the majority: tyranny of the minority.

This has come about because of a growing division between rural and urban voters. The electoral system the Founders devised, and which their successors elaborated, gives rural voters more clout than urban ones. When the parties stood for both city and country that bias affected them both. But the Republican Party has become disproportionately rural and the Democratic Party disproportionately urban. That means a red vote is worth more than a blue one.

The consequences are dramatic. Republicans hold both the houses of Congress and the White House. But in the three elections in 2012-16 their candidates got just 46% of the two-party vote for the Senate, and they won the presidential vote in 2016 with 49%. Our voting model predicts that, for Democrats to have a better than 50% chance of winning control of the House in November’s mid-term elections, they will need to win the popular vote by around seven percentage points. To put that another way, we think the Republicans have a 0.01% chance of winning the popular vote for the House. But we estimate their chance of securing a majority of congressmen is about a third. In no other two-party system does the party that receives the most votes routinely find itself out of power (see Briefing).

This imbalance is partly by design. The greatest and the smallest states each have two senators, in order that Congress should represent territory as well as people. Yet the over-representation of rural America was not supposed to affect the House and the presidency. For most of the past 200 years, when rural, urban and suburban interests were scattered between the parties, it did not. Today, however, the 13 states where people live closest together have 121 Democratic House members and 73 Republican ones, whereas the rest have 163 Republicans and just 72 Democrats. America has one party built on territory and another built on people.

The bias is deepening. Every president who took office in the 20th century did so having won the popular vote. In two of the five elections for 21st-century presidents, the minority won the electoral college. By having elected politicians appoint federal judges, the American system embeds this rural bias in the courts as well. If Brett Kavanaugh, whom President Donald Trump nominated this week, joins the Supreme Court, a conservative court established by a president and Senate who were elected with less than half the two-party vote may end up litigating the fairness of the voting system.

This bias is a dangerous new twist in the tribalism and political dysfunction that is poisoning politics in Washington. Americans often say such partisanship is bad for their country (and that the other lot should mend their ways). The Founding Fathers would have agreed. George Washington warned that “the alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge…is itself a frightful despotism”.

As a component of partisanship, the built-in bias is obviously bad for Democrats. But in the long run it is bad for America as a whole, including Republicans. When lawmaking is paralysed, important work, such as immigration and entitlement reform, is too hard. The few big laws that are approved, like Barack Obama’s health-care reform or Mr Trump’s corporate-tax cuts, pass on party-line votes. That emboldens the opposition to reverse or neuter them when they take power. Meanwhile, the task of resolving the most divisive political issues often falls to the courts. The battle over Mr Kavanaugh’s confirmation will be a proxy war over issues, like abortion and health insurance, better suited to the legislature.

Some may ask why Democrats do not return to positions that appeal to rural voters (see our special report). Recall how Mr Obama won the presidency opposing gay marriage and Bill Clinton built a coalition in the centre-ground. But rancorous political disputes—over guns, abortion and climate change—split so neatly along urban-rural lines that parties and voters increasingly sort themselves into urban-rural tribes. Gerrymandering and party primaries reward extremists, and ensure that, once elected, they seldom need fear for their jobs. The incentives to take extreme positions are very powerful.

Bitter partisanship, ineffective federal government and electoral bias poison politics and are hard to fix. Changing the constitution is hard—and rightly so. Yet the voting system for Congress is easier to reform than most people realise, because the constitution does not stipulate what it should be. Congress last voted to change the rules in 1967.

Second thoughts about first-past-the-post
The aim should be to give office-seekers a reason to build bridges with opponents rather than torch them. If partisanship declined as a result, so would pressure on voters to stick to their tribe. That could make both parties competitive in rural and urban areas again, helping to restore majority rule.

One option, adopted in Maine this year and already proposed in a bill in Congress for use nationwide, is “ranked-choice voting” (RCV), in which voters list candidates in order of preference. After a first count, the candidate with the least support is eliminated, and his or her ballots are reallocated to those voters’ second choice. This continues until someone has a majority. Candidates need second- and third-choice votes from their rivals’ supporters, so they look for common ground with their opponents. Another option is multi-member districts, which were once commonplace and still exist in the Senate. Because they aggregate groups of voters, they make gerrymandering ineffective.

Voting reform is not the whole answer to partisanship and built-in bias, but it would help. It is hard, but not outlandish. To maintain the trust of all Americans, the world’s oldest constitutional democracy needs to reform itself.

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My mother asserts with regularity that someone is stealing her underpants, which is why she has to carry them all with her at all times. For this reason, we are very careful to keep her away from the nuclear launch codes.

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Our best pho is Vietnamese

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But for the fact that I expect even worse shit coming out of his mouth in Helsinki, this is pretty much the last straw for me. It isn’t just the damage to our Nation that goes with calling our Western European allies (“the EU”) a “foe” of America: to lie about where your father was born in support of some delusional narrative is to show clear signs of serious mental incompetence.

The 25th Amendment should be triggered by this, but of course it won’t. The federal government is the hands of a madman.

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Papa was a rolling stone. Wherever he laid his hat was his home

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Okay, but are you a dentist? Can you read body language?
:wink:

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“Uh, okay, Jerry, Fred and Steve.”

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My mother was a tailor
She sewed my new blue jeans
My father was a gamblin’ man
Down in New Orleans

Now the only thing a gambler needs
Is a suitcase and trunk
And the only time he’s satisfied
Is when he’s on a drunk

House of the Rising Sun, revised lyrics by The Animals.

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It’s hard to see a bloated lard ass as an anchor baby

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All day versions of this have been playing in my brain. “how can he be so dumb?” “How did such a buffoon become prez?” – Still have cognitive dissonance, lasting since Nov of 2016.

  1. Are his voters unaware/uninformed or complicit
  2. How can this idiot be prez of the USA
  3. reading posts by his followers – they just love him, they think he is wonderful and doing a fantastic job.
    Among some of the awfully weird things are the admiration of Scott Adams (Dilbert comic strip) and one of the horrid cartoons by Ben Garrison where he is checking off his ‘to do’ list - titled ‘promises made promises kept’
    Here’s one admirer:
    x.com
    Here’s another - cringe worthy though it may be. Note donald’s idealized appearance :smirk:

IMO having every state award EC votes proportionally would be much better…then researched and found that in the last few elections that approach would result in such close votes that it would go to the House to decide the election. EC needs to be rebalanced some way.

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I was gonna post "what if Obama had said something like this:
The President also lied about his parents, saying that both “were born
in EU sectors.” His mother was born in Scotland, he said accurately, and
“my father was Germany.”

Imagine the shock and horror had Obama said both his parents were foreign born. Orly Taitz would have a seizure. There would be a move to throw him out of office. But trump? Nope…

The man is deranged.

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