Discussion: Trump DOJ Could Effectively Be Reviving A Long-Term Attack On Voting Rights

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Great to see that Americans will take this lying down. But they will tweet about it, so that’s meaningful protest, right?

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C’mon, Debbie Downer, they’re sternly-worded tweets!

So there’s that.

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It is said, as the monster dies, it flails. I think this move falls into that category.

I hope we can kill it before it becomes law. Not to wish my life away… but is it November, yet?

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The result could be that some states draw their legislative districts in ways that reduce the voting power of minority communities and boost the power of white ones.

So, the DOJ is doing what God would want. That's a problem?

Well, we got 2 elections coming that are going to matter more than ever for 75% of the population.
Might as well start now again to figure how to screw them.
Maybe we can go the voting vessel idea with those little Amazon bought film canisters
Need 350 million of them mailed to each address with postage paid return label.
Need volunteers to apply for counting job at White house south lawn.
Expect no pay.

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Oh Lord look at TPM front page, the GOP has gone nuts.
What the hell does Mueller have up his sleeve to have these people going nuts?
It has to be big.

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That would also take away congressional districts from states with high non-citizen populations. Double bonus.

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The media is Russia obsessed. And, that’s not a bad thing. But, in the meantime, our rights, liberties and protections are disappearing with nary a peep from the press nor the peeps for that matter. Maybe I should tweet about that, Oh wait, I don’t have Tweeter, er, I mean Twitter.

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Not surprising; the defeats in Virginia and Alabama have them spooked and it’ll probably get worse if there’s a blue wave in November.

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The GOP attacks on minority voters are of course dreadful and undemocratic.

There is another issue here:

Federal funding of some programs depends on head counts from the Census. The lower the head count, the smaller the funding. This means that minority areas that are intimidated by citizenship questions will get less money for need services. Of course, this impacts Democratically-represented representatives.

This latter repercussion is insidious and will hurt Democratic communities for the next 10 (TEN!!) years.

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Stoners, arise, if you can, and push back now!

@bodie1 The media is Russia obsessed

TPM is Russia obsessed, its stories get desired results.

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It has never ceased to fascinate me that more anti-democratic (fascistic) Rethugliklans act the louder they crow about their love for democracy, America, yada yada yada.

And that’s after re-reading 1984.

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Excellent article, Tierney! This is what I love about TPM’s reporting: plenty of context for the backstory and for future implications.

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Drawing legislative districts so that they equalize according to the number of legal citizens a district has instead of its total population would have huge implications for the political power of areas with a relatively high non-citizen populations, including immigrant communities. An analysis by Andrew Beveridge, a sociologist and demographics expert at CUNY, said that using citizen voting age instead of total population would result in a shift in voting power that would “substantially favor increasing the number of Republican-dominated districts.”

This paragraph contains two different questions. The first has to do with using legal citizens to draw a district instead of total population. The second has to do with using citizen voting age instead of total politicians. While I can see how using citizen voting age to draw districts can result in increasing the number of Republican-dominated districts by segregating older people in safe Republican districts, I don’t see how using legal citizens instead of total population reaches the same result. Actually it might be used to favor Democratic gerrymandering.

The bigger issue is whether asking the citizenship question will discourage participation in the census. That would be bad in a number of ways.

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First thing that set off my husband, this a.m.

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Nope. A big blue wave that sweeps up statehouses and governorships ends this bullshit. There are a lot of Republican governors in pink, purple, and blue states who are either term limited or up for reelection this year. Those governors will oversee the state legislatures who’ll redraw the congressional maps in 2021. It is up to us to go fucking vote next year, not only to take back these goverships, legislatures, and Congress, but to tee it for 2020 and redistricting in 2021. We’ve got to stop acting powerless because we’re not. We have a say in this. We just need to voice it with our votes.

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At this point I’m all in favor of the Dems adopting an aggressive redistricting strategy after the 2020 census and gerrymandering the fuck out of every state. Because as matters stand with the GOP, it’s a them-or-us situation, and it sure as hell better not be them.

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And Colorado is about ready to secede over it.

I do not believe the motherfuckers can really stop this movement. They can slow it down but there is one simple reason they can’t stop it: too much money to be made.

and the people want it.

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How about everyone just saying yes. Is it a crime to lie on a census form?

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