The Republicans and their friends in the mainstream press are spending millions to raise Hillary’s negatives to the stratosphere. The strategy is simple. If nobody likes either candidate most people stay home. Voting turnout shrinks to respective bases. As the Republicans proved in 2010 and 2014 they have the bigger base. A lot Republicans are really counting on winning by suppressing the vote. They were regardless of who their nominee was going to be.
“He gonna win unless we — meaning people like me — screw it up. This is not a hard race,” he said.
His surety and confidence are rattling to me. No one says a race is easy. It’s like he knows something we don’t.
Is this just a mind f**k, or does Manafort have a reason to say things like that? I am hoping it is the former, like the garbage where Donald’s investigators were in Hawaii finding all kinds of ‘amazing things’ about the President. Psychological warfare?
That’s very true. He’s underwater in nearly every demographic except for the “Right Wing Psychotic” group. He has that group locked up…but there aren’t nearly enough of those to help him. When a presumptive GOPer nominee is polling tight in Utah (hasn’t gone blue in 52 years), he’s in serious trouble.
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Yes, and that’s why Clinton’s first real test as the leader of the Democratic Party and country will be to bring Sanders supporters into the fold, and not as defeated opponents.
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I was in Hurricane, Utah last weekend. The tourists are relatively normal folk. Not so the local crowd …esp the ranchers and the fringe strict Mormon crowd who’s women folk still prefer what I would call “pioneer” dresses. They’re solid Trumpers.
Great news! Michigan gives me heartburn, because everyone (oddsmakers) view them as almost a sure thing. Cruising around the northern lower peninsula and seeing friggin’ Gadsden flags in front of trailers frightens the crap out of me. GOTV!!!
“He’ll still end up outside of the norm, but in line with what the American people are thinking," he added.
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I would say that Paul Manafort needs a vacation.
Trump, when speaking of Muslims, ain’t nowhere’s near the norm of American thought. We are a polyglot society built on immigration which the GOP seems to have forgotten. AND there’s that pesky 1st amendment freedom of religion thingy in the way Paulie (wags finger in his face and stamps foot).
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I am gonna really enjoy Trump getting absolutely hammered in November.
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Do you think links to lists of white papers is really going to turn anybody on this election? You must be the ultimate political nerd.
I don’t think Hillary is doomed. I don’t think she has her head up her butt. She is smart and aware. You on the other hand suffer from the same kind of delusional happy thinking that lead to shock when Romney didn’t win in 2012.
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“Hillary is the one who’s got a gender gap. And while we are behind among women over all, we’re ahead among white women even now. We’ll get some black and Hispanic women as we go along,” he said.
Now that’s what I’m talking about…where the white wimmins at!!! lmfao!
I would respond but it isn’t worth the effort. As my grandmother used to say you must be one of those people who thinks with his mouth.
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Or you know, a voter that bothers to educate himself. As opposed to you, who can’t be bothered to even read a list of her positions or her website, so instead you crow about how silly it is for someone to read up on policy positions. “How nerdy is that? I bet you know math, too!!”
There is nothing delusional about my views. I follow the empirical data to develop my views. Nor was I in the least shocked when Romney lost in 2012. I pretty much said he was going to lose from the conventions on…because the empirical data really didn’t move much at all. State by state in the Electoral College…Obama’s lead stayed constant.
Meanwhile, you just babble on about unproven “gut feelings” positions, while posting as much as you can to discourage people to vote Hillary.
Am I supporting Hillary? Yep, sure am…because she has the best policies. Am I supporting Democrats? Yep, I sure am…because they have the best policies. Do I think its going to be a blow out? Nope…but I do think we have an extremely good chance at winning the White House…and I AM going to continue to share the reason why I think that…backed up by continued links to actual polling showing that.
And do I expect you to continue to post lots of negative crap about Hillary and how its a horrible campaign, and how she is going to lose? Yep…because that’s what you have done this entire campaign. And do I expect you to eat crow when we win in November? Nope…I expect you to change subjects and start posting about how each policy issue she is working on is DOOMED to fail because…argle bargle.
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he says in a response.
He says about a link to actual polling data, with nothing but mouth.
Has it ever occurred to you that there are millions of people who don’t think the way you think. They actually think they can win if the stars line up. In this case the only way they can win is to suppress the vote and turn this into a base election.
Trump thinks he can turn some of Bernie’s supporters to his side because his economic message has some of the same components as Bernie. Unlike you he doesn’t think Bernie’s supporters are members of a Bernie loving cult. They are people who feel betrayed by politics as usual. He thinks they are people who are turned off by the trade policy adopted by every administration Republican and Democrat in the last 30 years. Those are the people who have lost their jobs and futures in trade deals.
Hillary has to convince at least some of those people that she gets it. Your endless tirades that Bernie’s supporters should surrender and be good little sheep or you and your friends will grind them under your boots, isn’t helpful the Hillary or America.
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And again…
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-05-26/bloomberg-politics-rust-belt-poll
He is losing those votes. By a pretty big margin. Empirical data > notions in your head.
Or perhaps you want to consider that the demographic that Bernie does the best with is…younger voters.
Trump “thinks” all sorts of stuff. Just like you do. Doesn’t make it reality. And AGAIN…I am showing you empirical data that conflicts with those thoughts. In pretty big ways.
Pure frustration and angry venting, with nothing even closely resembling a tenable grasp of reality.
Two minor points. One, even the headline of the Bloomberg poll you cite refers to middle class voters. The middle class is not the same as working class. Two, he doesn’t have to get young voters to vote for him. He just has to convince them to stay home and not vote. You have wasted hours railing at how bad young people are because they didn’t come out in 2010 and 2014. Do you really think they are going to come out in 2016 to vote for Hillary unless she gives them a reason to vote for her?
I have? Or are you spinning up some more straw for a strawman attack?
I will admit I have pointed out that the youth vote turns out in very small proportion to their population, in EVERY election since the voting age was lowered to 18. It is what it is. I don’t rail against them, but I also don’t think its particularly effective to base a campaign upon turning out the youth vote. Because historically, they are an unreliable demographic.
But that’s not the same as saying we should exclude them. I WANT young people to be involved. I made multiple posts early in the campaign that ultimately, getting people enthusiastically involved in politics pays off dividends down the road. And I still strongly believe that.
If anything, I see Sanders as the much bigger risk to that right now…because he is painting a self fulfilling picture…the system is rigged, so we can’t win…and see? we lost, which just proves the system is rigged. That sort of ploy is aimed at disenfranchising younger voters.
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Do you want the youth vote? Seriously? If so listen to them. Reach out to them.
Tell me, why is Sanders wrong to say the system is rigged? Isn’t it? That doesn’t mean we can’t fight back or that mainstream Democrats aren’t people of goodwill, but seriously do you really think America doesn’t have an income inequality problem and that the oligarchs don’t have too much power?
Doesn’t Hillary find herself moderating her positions because she needs the money from her big dollar funding sources who don’t want a $15.00 minimum wage etc and want to keep their special tax breaks. What part of Bernie’s assessment of the current political landscape is wrong?
Note, I am not saying things can’t be changed or his solutions are right, but if you are a young adult just getting started Bernie’s assessment of the current situation looks spot on. Shouldn’t all Democrats be at the bleeding edge of the fight to bring back opportunity to all Americans?
“Hey, Mr. Tangerine man, build a wall for me
I’m not that bright and don’t know that you’re not going to”
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If there’s one thing Trump knows how to do, it’s sell imaginary success to the rubes – it’s the magic touch all casino operators have. His apartment and condo buildings are awful, both the engineering and the design, yet he puts his name on them and people stand in line to buy them. The average Trump supporter and the leaning Trump supporter alike absolutely, positively, completely believe he can make America “great” again. Look at it this way: say he runs against Sanders. Who are most people going to vote for? The guy who says everything is shit and we need a revolution to completely reinvent America from soup to nuts or the guy who says all that’s needed is to be the American badasses the popular mythology already thinks we are? It’s Carter-vs-Reagan all over again. No, it’s time to start battening the hatches. We’ve got an 8-year-long nightmare to get ready for.
I have been “reaching out” to youth for 40 years. The way Sanders is doing it has some downsides and upsides. I know one thing:
After 7 June 2016, the ride is over.