Discussion: Toy Soldiers: Predictions For The Christian Right In 2015

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The fanatical right wing broadcasting company Sinclair’s recent purchase of Cincinnati, Ohio’s CBS affiliate has resulted in a clear fundamentalist religious slant within local newscasts and, if Sinclair’s past is any guide, a heavy right wing political thrust for the next two years.

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Good luck changing their beliefs to advance your political ends GOP. While they enjoy dabbling in RW voting, their only goal is to save their grubby little souls. When fundy preachers and congress creatures get together, both religion and politics suffer more corruption.

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The goals of the Christian extremists are their own and only happen to coincide with the convenient needs of the Republican Party. The Christian’s have no other place to go to impose their will and the Repubs greet them with open arms as base filler.

If we truly separated church and state, there wouldn’t be a Republican Party and Christianity would have to compete on fair grounds. So, no guess why they fight so hard to protect each other and the nation be damned.

Christianity in theory is a simple, beautiful thing, in politics at least, it is vile and uncompromising.

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Please remember that there are millions of Christians who are liberals, who vote that way, and are as sickened by the Republican Party’s Right Wing Christian nutbags as any liberal atheist. For reference, see the vast majority of people of color who happen to be both overwhelmingly Christian and overwhelmingly Democratic. Also, a majority of Catholics identify as Democrats. The problem isn’t Christians or Christianity, the problem is that a subset of Christians are becoming increasingly radicalized in their views and simultaneously increasingly at odds with the tenets of Christianity and Jesus himself. They no more represent all of Christianity than Netanyahu and his ilk represent the views of all or even most Jews.

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So Go. Walker is in direct contact with the Almighty. I demand that we form a select committee and subpoena Walker’s emails, texts, and snail mail letters from the Almighty. Can Walker prove that the Almighty is an American citizen? If not then he is taking orders from an undocumented deity.

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“…conservative Christian paranoia and determination to wage spiritual battles against “liberal secular culture” might finally be abating.”

Bwahahahahahahahaha!

Ahem.  Sorry. (Snickers.  Wipes eyes.) Oh shit!  Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Silliest line in the post. Who will the GOP then use to fill in the gap if they can’t depend on the the most intellectually and morally stunted segment of American society, their Reich-wing evangelicals? More Klansmen? Will the GOP also then give up on the meth-crusted red meat that inflames that “base”; abortion, prayer in schools, same-sex marriage, “States Rights!”, anti-immigration, anti-trade, Wall Street? Effing Wall Street?

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And lest any candidate take them for granted, conservative evangelical voters proved their value once again in 2014 by turning out in wildly higher percentages than their share of the population.

The rest is commentary.

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+1

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True. But they make the most noise, and their over-the-top viewpoints are for some reason irresistible to what passes for news media in this country. And Netanyahoo is at the top of the heap in Israel, isn’t he?

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That’s why I call the religious right Old Testamentarians, as they are far more interested in taking their cues from The Book of Leviticus than the words of Christ.

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While no Republican candidates are going to distance themselves from the religious right, Cruz appears to have the strongest appeal with them. Jindal and Perry may speak their language, but Cruz fires them up.

Ultimately I think Cruz has too many enemies among the rest of the party, and is too widely perceived as the least electable among the “name” candidates to actually win the nomination, but if he can largely squeeze out competition for the hard core evangelical vote ( much like Santorum eventually did with far less in resources and lead time), he could make the path difficult for whoever is the eventual nominee.

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I hear what you are saying and that is almost exactly what I said. The first line says, “the goals of Christian extremists” and that applied to all that I wrote.
It seems that you agree completely but are a defensive towards Christianity. You missed my main point I think because of that.
As far as what I said about Christianity having to compete on fair ground, I totally mean it. In know way should any religion have any government assistance, including and especially the ridiculous tax breaks. Christianity is basically US Gov’t sponsored and to me that puts them in this position of being used by and using the gov’t. They could give it up if it was just about purely Christ’s teachings.

But then, that is where the whole deal loses me personally. I’m agnostic at best. And guess who represents me?

I in no way mean to disrespect yours or the other millions beliefs. I strictly target the, I believe they are known as, fundamentalists and phonies.

Merry Christmas.

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“…liberal secular culture…”

Conservative candidates aren’t even pretending to be for individual liberty anymore. Every solution they offer starts with making government bigger, more powerful, and more intrusive. Politicians, after all, are the true holy men of society. The clergy are little more than precinct captains.

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And of course, to get elected.

Jebbie certainly has the backing of a good percentage of the evangelicals and christianists or he would not go for the nomination. Santorum is a quitter and likely won’t be a contender. In fact, I would not be surprised to see Santorum all over Jebbie. Cruz may be a thorn, but in the end he’ll capitulate to Mitchy, or else. Personally, I don’t think Huckabee has it in him, besides he’s too comfy. Rubio, well, he’s just a thirsty flatfoot.

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They vote whatever the preacher tells them too, just like gun zombies vote a straight NRA ticket. They are far more interested in publicly polishing their halos than the misery people suffer as a consequence of their votes.

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I sure wish liberal Christians would shout it out so their numbers would be known.

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Repub Christians are not true Christians. Many have been propagandized and brainwashed over the last 30+ years by the repub marketing machine. Their leaders sold their souls for votes to get the things they want like overturning Roe v Wade. It’s been a slow go for their side social issue wise, but they keep on voting repub waiting for results. Over the last few years more and more folks have unidentified from the repub party. So now more and more of the RWNJs are in the House and Senate poised to deliver. Even though PBO can veto the most insane bills, I want the repubs to introduce them big time. I’m rooting for overreach. Americans need to see what these folks really want to happen. Repubs think they have a mandate. Go for it all - impeachment, personhood, ignoring climate change, Roe v Wade and birth control, etc.!

It’s great when religious voters support liberal candidates. Too bad they manage to support them so . . . inconspicuously.

“Sen. Marco Rubio is (like Jindal) another traditionalist Catholic who likes to attend conservative evangelical churches”

I don’t know how Sen. Rubio will fare on a secular level, but according to basic Catholic doctrine, he’s already fucked in the afterlife. attending other church services is a basic Catholic no-no, bound to get you borne to Satan’s fiery lair, upon kicking the bucket. for a “traditionalist Catholic” to not know that is rather shocking, and certainly cause for the faithful to question his bona fides.