Discussion: Top Census Scientist Testifies That Adding Citizenship Question Was Not A Good Idea

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This law suit is going to keep giving, and giving, and giving. And (assuming the media and especially CNN covers it) it will drive †Я☭mp crazy. Not only will †Я☭mp loose at the end, and face a detailed written ruling, but he will be looking for someone to blame. He already is embarrassed by Wilbur Ross, and my guess is will want to fire him.

And with the D’s in control of the house, they will make sure that no census is funded or proceeds that has this question on it, and a judicial opinion will allow them to force this through.

There is no way the Democratic leadership will roll over on this, its too important to their home states not just in representation (probably 10 seats) but in funding.

What I do hope they do is add conditions to the funding that require the census do full outreach and “expunge” the taint caused by Ross.

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Unless trump wants to shut the country down over a census question


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This administration and the Repugs in general never pay attention to scientists, particularly when they are saying something they don’t want to hear or do, with climate change as the best example. However, it should allow the Dem-controlled house and the courts to keep this question off the census, so maybe we will win this one.

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The government attorneys will attempt to discredit Abowd’s testimony on the grounds that he is a top scientist and an expert in the field. It is well known that reality and facts have a liberal bias and they should not be allowed to sway the court’s decision on this critical issue.

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That is where the court ruling is key. †Я☭mp can say “I am not going to allow the D’s to steal the census” its a defensible line on FOX News, but he can’t do it once a judge issues an opinion that what †Я☭mp is doing violates the law. Put another way, †Я☭mp can’t keep going in the face of a contrary court order, an argument that †Я☭mp will appeal the ruling will not give him the cover he would need to shut down the government.

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Even without a court ruling, Congress is constitutionally responsible for the census. If they say no funding shall be expended on such-and-such a question, that’s pretty much the end of it. In theory, the executive could sue to say that the exclusion of some question violates the constitution, but that would be a tough slog.

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Top Census Scientist Testifies That Adding Citizenship Question Was Not A Good Idea

John Denver working for the Commerce Department: ♫ “You fill up my census . . .” ♫

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My good person, I am stealing your font.

Tr☭mp.

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I think that should be the new battle cry of the Resistance: “Expunge the Taint!”

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Ah , time for another Puddin` Face tantrum .

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Everybody knows longer surveys of all kinds reduce participation. Everybody knows it.

Except, apparently, the banker overseeing the big one.

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Judge Furman was appointed by Obama.

(Hey, wow, O actually got one appointed!)

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This should not be surprising to anyone. The proposed addition of a citizenship question to the Census was always designed to suppress voting and identify undocumented people living here. More Trump trash.

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I expect Ross to stamp his feet

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The Senate thought it was Mark Fuhrman’s brother.

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Somebody else in donnie’s admin is lying? who would have expected that?

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One of the main purposes and goals of adding this question is to further “ruralize” power concentration in the country. The vast bulk of people affected by this question live in urban areas - with subsequent under-reporting of the population in those areas, it reduces their representation and increases the already steadily increasing power of the rural areas to keep a stranglehold on the political direction of the country. This is why our federal government always seems to be 20 degrees to the right of the population an all issues affecting the country as a whole.

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Suburban and exurban Rump lovers should be wondering why their hero wants to drive immigrants out of the cities into their neighborhoods.

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An I surprised, NO.
Will it make a difference, NO
Will the REPUGS get their way, MORE THAN LIKELY