Several years ago a reporter crashed a secret Yale alumni meeting in New York, well…secret in that it was annual and off limits to reporters. My memory is hazy on this but, somewhere along the way said reporter was outed and had to stand before the grand inquisitor who turned out to be Wilbur Ross. Ross was wearing purple slippers and a fez. You can’t make this stuff up.
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Chris Hayes did an excellent podcast on this case last week with the referenced Attorney Ho. Really a great listen and they raise some interesting points about just how much of a slam dunk this case should be for the ACLU from an evidentiary perspective. The real gremlin here could be whether the view of the dissenting SCOTUS justices (that the whole lawsuit is unlawful basically) could ever end up resurfacing in some way. If it doesn’t, it would seem Commerce/Ross is in for some tough times.
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If anyone deserves a thorough investigation in the Trump administration it is Mr Smithers (alias Wilbur Ross).
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You’re right about Dems having their way with this issue
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2018/11/07/us/politics/07reuters-usa-election-census.html
Representative Elijah Cummings, told Reuters on Wednesday he plans to renew calls for an investigation. The Maryland Democrat is in line to chair the House Oversight Committee, the legislature’s primary investigative arm.
@ljb860 Not.
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You’re so right.
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Steal away, I stole the idea from someplace on the web-thingy. 
But the T is not capitalized, he is too much of a looser to get a capital letter.
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I’m pretty sure it’s not actually a ‘t’, but a cross. Whoever created it did so as a further allusion to his co-opting religious dogma for his own enrichment.
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the nonresponse rates increased at a greater rate among households with
at least one noncitizen for the longer survey, compared to the growth in
nonresponse rates to the longer survey among all citizen households
If they include the citizenship question on the survey, I am pretty sure that I would be so unhappy to see it that I would subconciously erase the sight of it from my mind and move on to the next question without noticing that I’d failed to respond to the citizenship question.
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Mindlessness worth celebrating?
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I worry so every time Wilbur gets knocked on his back. One day he’ll stay in that position, limbs flaying feebly in the air, until he asphyxiates on his own drool.
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it is infact a cross, it falls below the line. I just cut and post it. 
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I kept hoping that happened to the Evil Kibler elf, who SNL probably just as appropriately considered a possum.
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The citizenship question is already in the American community survey which goes into micro interesting valuable detail about American life and is used and defended by everyone from Fortune 500 companies to local governments where transit planners like myself use its data. How many people have refrigerators? What is the average commute in Podunk? It’s all there.
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the Administrative Procedure Act, which allows courts to strike down agency decisions if they are around to be “arbitrary” or “capricious.”
Worth noting that this act was passed in 1946, in response to the New Deal, in order to deal with the problem of federal agencies exceeding their bounds in making rules. In other words, exactly what Republicans always complain about.
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Never heard about this kind of survey and it seems benign. But it’s clear Ross’s intention at trump’s behest is trying to find out who’s here from other countries, what their citizenship status is in order to scare them into not responding so they won’t be subject to harassment by any anti-immigrant forces. Which then leads to underfunding the government and loss of political representation.
Eighteen U.S. states and 15 cities have sued to have the question removed, calling it unconstitutional
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“ottnott” talks about skipping the question
I hope it’s simply a paper form and you are allowed to skip one. Unlike certain electronic surveys where you are not permitted to submit your form unless you have filled out all the “required” questions.
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Paper form. You aren’t “allowed” to skip one, but mistakes happen. When the Census doesn’t get your form back, or if they find that you have missing, illegible, or otherwise unusable responses, they will do followup contacts to get the problems corrected.
I’m sure that, if I accidentally overlooked a question (about “citizenship,” for example), I would try to remember to correct the omission, with the help of the followup contacts and with an eye toward whatever incentives to remember are provided in the form of penalties for continued carelessness or memory problems.
The objective is to take political power and money away from cities. If it succeeds, people will just move to the suburbs as cities become bigger stink holes over time. Republicans should be asked why they want immigrants from the cities to move out into the suburbs.
The Census Bureau also conducts a household National Crime Victimization Survey for DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics. I got it at our house once, then got what I am remembering as a repeat survey at least a year later that went only to people who’d received the earlier survey. It’s a pretty important survey in that it helps reveal the extent of crime that isn’t reported to law enforcement and it systematically collects circumstances of the crimes that would be collected haphazardly at best by law enforcement.
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There’s probably more not reported to law enforcement than we realize. Thanks for that.