tRump will be impressed with what she has to say. I guess the Dems want to spread the heat around to others so Pelosi isnât the only target.
âLook, this is not about the 2020 elections,â Tlaib told âMeet the Pressâ host Chuck Todd.
it is about 2020, but thatâs more so his fault, then it is House Dems.
âItâs about doing whatâs right now for our country.â
agree
âThis is going to be a precedent that we set when we donât hold this President accountable to the rule of law and to the United States Constitution,â she continued. âThe publicâs trust is at stake.â
Though I somewhat agree with this, unless its understood that senators who will likely acquit this man, also need to be held responsible, then thatâs a huge problem.
There shouldnât be any âwell if the Speaker had done this sooner.â statements, because it should be crystal clear (even to the wannabe Dominique Wilkins cultists) that impeachment without conviction means that the voters have to make the âmoderateâ, modern day Republicans pay for their Trump loyalty.
We can pass all the wonderful legislation in the world -from infrastructure to healthcare reform -but that wouldnât change the fact something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
At some point, Impeachment needs to happen to lay down a marker that Trumpâs criminality, corruption, and violation of the Constitution is unacceptable. This must be done, again, at some point, to protect the public interest and future of our Republic. We canât allow this behavior to stand as a precedent for future Presidents. And if the Senate (Republicans) chooses not to convict, let them bear the responsibility of their actions for eternity.
Itâs the classic Democratic Circular Firing Squad.
Every person commenting should be bringing up McTurtle by name at every point, note that itâs his blockade which is standing in the way of meaningful progress.
Tlaib argued that she and other lawmakers canât pass important legislation when Trump âcontinues to lie to the American people.â
If the media could use the sameamount of time and energy theyâve spent (and will continue to spend) on chasing Pelosi around and pressing her for the impeachment issue to question Turtle about his sabotage of House bills, Iâm sure things would be better.
Trunpâs GOPâs symptom! Hold them all accountable!
⌠Trump âcontinues to lie to the American people.â
Hell, he even lies about watching TV.
When Trump says that the sun rose this morning, I go outside to check.
Though you said it better than me, Iâve been saying something similar for nearly two years.
Iâd like for the American press to ask John Thune if he shares Jon Voightâs enthusiasm.
Itâs one of my much longer-term annoyances with the Dems, the ability to snatch defeat from victory and fracture and split themselves, rather than focusing on the enemy and what the best way to advance goals overall is.
The Right is much more disciplined at that.
Itâs not about the 2020 Election?!? Everything is about the 2020 Election. What is wrong with you, Congressperson?
Weâve passed 100 bills that will never see the light of day. So was it a waste of time? Of course, not. Itâs part of the American political process that parties pass legislation that they fully expect to fail in order to highlight for the voters their priorities and to leverage that to frame the next election.
A successful impeachment that ends in a Senate acquittal is functionally no different. Youâre pinning Trumpâs criminality on the GOP and making them own it. Your partyâs base will support you for doing the right thing. Theyâll fight for you, contribute, volunteer and crawl through broken glass to vote because theyâll know the Democratic Party is the last line of defense protecting this Republic from turning into a fascist state. In Game of Thrones terms, the Democratic Party is the force that guards the realms of free men/women. Dems have to live up to that destiny, to that calling.
Start the formal impeachment inquiry. Get the show on the road.
Itâs about both because if we donât take the white house in 2020, the outcome of impeachment wonât matter, the 2020 election is do or die time, literally for a lot of people (specifically anyone who is non-white or male) in this country. That said, itâs about timing and thoroughness. Everybody knows what the Senate result will be, so it comes down to having the Houseâs articles of impeachment be thorough, well established, and leaving no doubt in the minds of the people as the go in to the 2020 election.
Standing ovation to Congresswoman Tlaib -this is how it is done. It is about the violation of the oath of office and the Constitution. It is not about the 2020 election per se. This is about the future of our country.
I havenât seen us make the case in irrefutable terms, yet. Or, should I say, simple terms.
And, how this is affecting the lives of ordinary citizens. That would include members of my own family, sadly.
Let me go out on a limb and suggest they are one-in-the-same.

Thatâs a stout limb - I think youâre safe. hahahaha
If ever an election mattered. . . which is why itâs so scary.
Tliab totally gets it. If the Democrats in the House donât impeach, then they are simply playing politics with their Constitutional responsibilities, just like they accuse the Republicans in the Senate of doing.
But apparently Mitch McConnell rules their world. And all Pelosi offers are thoughts and prayers.