Discussion: Times Of Israel Removes Column That Advocated Genocide

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And they originally thought this would be an acceptable editorial? Really?


Words fail. They really do.


Isn’t war, any war, genocide to begin with? Was leveling Germany and parts of Japan genocide or self defense?

WTF.pdf, indeed.


“If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to
achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then
permissible to achieve those responsible goals?”

Ummm, wasn’t that the excuse Nazis gave about Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals, etc. ?


So now we have 3 - justifiers of genocide: ISSL, Gordon and Ann Coulter. Building in the other corners will be the Koch Bros and Reason magazine - who will deny the existence of any genocide.

It is really becoming difficult to keep these groups separate.


No, not strictly speaking. As Clausewitz said, “War is merely the continuation of policy by other means.” The allies didn’t bomb Germany and Japan because they wanted to eliminate all Germans and Japanese. They did it because it seemed the most effective way to remove the governments of Nazi Germany and the Empire of Japan. Genocidal war is waged with the primary goal of elimination of a specific population based on ethnicity, genealogy, morphology or some other non-political attribute.


Holy Crap!

I will conclude with a question for all the humanitarians out there. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu clearly stated at the outset of this incursion that his objective is to restore a sustainable quiet for the citizens of Israel. We have already established that it is the responsibility of every government to ensure the safety and security of its people. If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?

This is the result of dehumanization. Without an end to occupation this will only get worse. A few weeks back I saw pictures of Jewish neonazis throwing the Hitler salute at a peace demonstration in Tel Aviv. Here’s more about this bizarre turn


Moses directed God-ordered genocide, so it does seem to fit into their religious beliefs.


And Joshua said “We have conquered what will now be the State of Israel by destroying these couple of cities.” And then unto them the Philistines came and said, “Um excuse me but we were living here first, so go away.” and Israel was pestered by these dudes for hundreds of years.


Germany was levelled only after the Luftwaffe conducted levelling raids on the United Kingdom. Beginning on Sept. 7, 1940, the Luftwaffe bombed London for 57 consecutive nights. Raids which killed 40,000 people and destroyed at least 1,000,000 homes. Germany unleashed the Baedeker raids in 1942, hoping to demoralize the British people. Later in the war, the Luftwaffe initiated Operation Steinbock - which resulted in more destruction in January - May, 1944.


Yikes, they sound like Bin Laden.

They even use his same rationale: its excusable to kill civilians because of the actions of the leadership they voted for.

Sick fuckers.


Isn’t what you describe the same kind of action that Israel is taking against Hamas? Isn’t what is going on in Gaza an effective way to remove the terrorist organization Hamas from Palestine?

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When genocide is permissible: …Never.


Not genocide. It was the Allied war tactic that led to unconditional surrender. Stalin’s troops did their share without dropping bombs, yet they lost 20M in the effort…as victors!

Killing children will prevent terrorism?

Anyone that thinks so really needs to be versed on history.



I think this guy’s yarmulke is way too tight.


If AIPAC supported that disgusting article, they could call for a vote, and that article would get a super-majority of our Senate to vote in favor of it.