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Thousands Of Artifacts Stored At Oregon Refuge Held By Armed Militia
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There isn’t a single rancher in the area who can produce any record or deed of legal ownership of any land within the Refuge.
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The Broken Windows theory of crime prevention is that if you stop small crimes - window washing, graffiti - you can stop larger crimes. The perception of disorder is a key to the crime problem.
If that is so, why is this theory not being applied here? Small crimes, like occupying a Federal building, should be addressed. Another small crime (although I consider it large) is the non-payment of fees, more than $1,000,000, by Bundy. These should be addressed.
The Broken Windows theory says that more crimes will now result in the areas in question, and they will be more serious.
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“Before white man came, so to speak, there was nothing to keep cattle from tromping on those things,” Bundy said.
Also, there was nothing to stop the giraffes, hippos, and elephants from roaming free. Other than their total lack of existence there.
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I wish President Obama would use one of his no-fucks-left-to-give to arrest these people immediately.
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The Bundestaag is results of 'Opressed Backbones"…
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When will the Feds go due their duty and remove these white right wing extremist criminals.The people who live in that area want them gone.Some of those people have recieved threats.Some of the people are living scared right now.
And the Feds do nothing at all.I bet if they were some Anti-War Left Wing group the Feds would of tear gassed the place and busted the whole lot.Same as if they were a bunch of minorities.
FEDS…do your job and remove this problem now.Chuck the lot of these arses in jail and charge them for what they have done.
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“Removing artifacts from federal property without a permit is illegal.” One would think that occupying the building would be illegal too, but guess not.
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“Before white man came, so to speak, there was nothing to keep cattle from tromping on those things,” Bundy said.
Bundy’s ignorance is overwhelming. No cattle existed in North America before the Spanish brought them, first to the Virgin Islands, later to Mexico, in the late 1500s, at earliest. Bundy is representative of the intelligence level of these bad boys only playing cowboy, not living cowboy.
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James Comey’s FBI and also HS are full of political cowards. They do not perform their jobs anymore, other than creating false flag terrorists with entrapment. When real domestic terrorists act, the FBI and HS run and hide until all clear is signaled. The problem is that now, enabling and supporting domestic terrorism with lack of justice and law enforcement, we’ll have a LOT more of this coming down nation wide, not only the rancher rip off artists, but terrorists of every stripe. They know they can destroy our lives now with no protection from the feds. We are on our own here, and henceforth, apparently. Stock up on armament while you can to defend your self. As far as I’m concerned, I have no arms. I just live remotely and quietly, working with Navajos, because the terrorists, both feds and cowboys, are an overwhelming force armed with weapons of mass destruction, same for your police and sheriffs locally now.
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“We also recognize that the Native Americans had the claim to the land, but they lost that claim,” Bundy said.
Those things happen when you move.
"Yeah, I know we packed those claims away in a box somewhere, but I'll be damned if I can find them. I guess we lost them. Whatcha gonna do?"Another sign by government building trespassers who can’t spell.
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Great, so not only is ISIS destroying artifacts in Syria, but we have our own version of ISIS threatening artifacts here.
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Idiots occupying an unused building in the middle of nowhere when it’s virtually no one is around is one thing (idiocy). Threatening our nation’s heritage is another. The artifacts, the wildlife, the petroglyphs, the natural ecology of the area are exactly why President Roosevelt protected this area for all Americans and for the posterity of our nation. Pull out these bastards now by the roots and send them to jail.
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All in the media the Bundy’s have yelled WE TAKE THIS LAND BACK FOR THE PEOPLE
“Bundy said people interested in archeology are welcome to explore the refuge, but that cattle ranchers and loggers should have priority when it comes to land use.” And here we see what they really mean is they take the land for those whom THEY decide should get to use it.
They’re just a bunch of thieves trying to steal their own little dictatorship.
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We also recognize that the Native Americans had the claim to the land, but they lost that claim," Bundy said.
There’s a dominant reason for that…
“There are things to learn from cultures of the past, but the current culture is the most important.”
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look at the time.
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They are exceptional thieves! And since they’re moving up to extortion, you should be more polite, Captain.