Discussion: Tax Credits Inflame Internal Fight Over Leaked GOP Obamacare Repeal Draft

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They’re just arguing over which plan will assure lousier coverage for Americans. I am confident that whatever choice they make will be the worst possible option…and very possibly repeal with no replace. They are that stupid, that selfish and that vindictive.

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Can we get a competency hearing for the GOP?

I have to say that the ultra-conservative side of the internal battle is the more coherent one here – that side just wants some tax cuts for those earning enough to pay taxes, and they don’t give a shit about healthcare coverage for those who can’t afford it.

The side supposedly trying to replace Obamacare instead of just eliminating it has created the most craptacular approach possible.

It eliminates the taxes that supported the ACA subsidies and Medicaid expansion. Then it provides a tax credit that goes even to people who don’t need it. Naturally, that creates a massive hole in the budget. To close that hole, the new plan will tax those who have been receiving employer subsidies of insurance as a tax-free benefit.

That tax would hit low-paid employees the most, because their insurance benefit is relatively large in comparison to pay. The burden on low-paid workers and the overall politics of a new tax limits how much revenue can be raised, so the tax credits will necessarily have to be kept low – too low to make health insurance affordable for millions of people who can afford subsidized ACA plans.

So, the replacement plan is already a mess just from the money perspective. On the insurance and healthcare side, the GOP has yanked out major supports in the carefully constructed ACA system that allowed insurance companies, hospitals, and healthcare providers to function in a world where coverage was expanded to millions who had pre-existing conditions or who could not previously afford insurance. Insurance companies will instantly raise rates and drop coverage for customers with high healthcare costs. Hospitals will start jacking up negotiated rates to cover the new surge of uninsured patients. Etc.

It’s an ineffective mess.

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watch how easy they accept tax credits for the bill the puppets daughter is pushing.
giving income earners up to 500,000 a year tax credits for hiring child help…and the catch being you must first pay it out…meaning low income families will get nothing since they cant afford the payments up front.

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" poor families will get nothing since they can’t afford to pay up front"

Yes the classic feature and not a bug!

The whole idea is to not do this and then claim that they tried. Or did not, depending on the audience!

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“We can’t have this plan, it doesn’t fuck TEH POORZ hard enough!”

Signed,
The Freedumb Caucus

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They had 7 years. What real world job would allow that?

Boss “Will that report be ready Friday?”

Employee “I’ll need a little more time. I think I should be able to finish it in 7 years.”

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Next, the loony right will vote against agriculture bills because of farm subsidies and energy bills because of subsidies to the oil, coal and gas industries.

Where by “next” I mean “never”.

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The Freedom Caucus, The House Republican Study Committee, The Tuesday Group, Outside Tea Party, groups…they have more sides than the Syrian rebels.

It reminds of the movie Life of Brian, where all the various groups fought more with each other than the Romans.

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This reminds us that as much of a nasty asshole Trump is the House and Senate are filled with lots of turds who are just as nasty and evil. The difference is that they know enough to not put ketchup on a steak in a public setting…as for killing the poor, they are all the same.

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Ivanka: “Let them eat tax cuts”

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Let’s all pitch in to get Ted Cruz a face transplant. Not for him - for the rest of us that have to look at it.

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Keep fighting, assholes. All it means is that your congressional schedule is slipping through faster and faster and people will not see anything happening at all during 2017.

But I am confused of course: why are you all bitching about subsidies when you clearly found $26 billion for your bigot border wall? Not to mention the massive increase to defense. How are healthcare subsidies going to break the bank?

Oh, I know why, but it would be nice for one of the Media Whores to ask.

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From the Freedom Caucus: Damn it, we’re not even going to give 'em crumbs. And get off my lawn! How Christian!

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Roll those grenades, boyz! Let the fraggings continue!

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Just saying – Mark Sanford represents SC – not NC.

Exactly. They can’t do tax reform without dealing with Obamacare first. Mexico was never going to pay for the wall, the promised infrastructure bill looks more and more like smoke and mirrors (tax credits and tax breaks for things like pipelines that were going to be built anyway, instead of direct spending on roads, bridges, etc), and McConnell put it off until next year anyway, granting even one undocumented immigrant legal status will raise the bloody cry of “Amnesty!”, so no immigration bill…so that leaves what it always leaves. Abortion!

Hard to see what they get accomplished.

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My problem with a $2000 tax credit is twofold. $2000 wouldn’t even cover a third of the premium for a single, young, healthy, childless person.

Also, refundable tax credits are paid on February 15 or later. So you have to front the full cost, all year long, waiting for your refund.

Republican hardliners’ problem is that it’s way too generous and doesn’t kick enough people to the curb.

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Inflamed MotherHubbard’s!!

Let them “WEAR” tax cuts! Either jewelry or a nice pump would do.

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