Discussion: Support From Women, Minorities Gives Clinton Lead Over Trump In New Poll

Their wealthy narcissistic husbands who a) are threatening or b) the ladies who lunch want to keep that $ money rolling in for their own narcissistic bull shit.

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Yep - Us womens is not stoopid.

:slight_smile:

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Really? You’re going to use an antiquated Euro-centric tradition of men not wearing hats indoors to slam white men for being uncooth?

Racist much? Yes you are.

Oh no, that’s not necessary. Leaving the house for almost any reason at all that results in contact with humans suffices for that purpose.

And it’s “uncouth”. You were probably adjusting the bill on your hat when the teacher was covering elementary spelling.

Given that we have our actual or presumptive nominees for each party at this point, can we stop with the national polls, which don’t mean anything? Forget that polling this far out from the election, let alone before the conventions, is window dressing at best anyway. As we have seen in the last three elections, the national polls mean squat, but rather we should be focusing on the polls (if we are going to get up in arms about them at this point in the calendar at all) from the key states. Argue amongst yourselves which those are, but its those polls that mean something. What are the roadblocks for each candidate on the path to 270?

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I am not convinced that there will be a post-Sanders blip, because according to the poll 87% of Ds already support HRC. Among that 87% are my oldest grandchikdren, who were for Sanders in the primaries, but have had no priblem in moving to HRC now. If there is going to be a blip, I think it will be among Hispanic and African American voters, who have been notoriously underrepresented in these polls-- including in 2012. The polls also make no effort to get a sense of the Jewish vote, which - while small - will go overwhelmingly for HRC, which will be critical in Florida, Pennsylvania and Ohio. They were critical in Florida in 2012.

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Amazingly (first time in my lifetime) that I see likely voters lean more heavily D than registered voters. Shows you what happens when you piss off Latinos and depress your own base (Mormons, conservative woman, etc). Usually it’s the other way around, Democrats have to work harder to energize their base.

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The polls certainly don’t reflect anything good about white voters.

But that “87% of Dems” does not include Dem leaning independents who support Bernie.

You have me pegged. And I have you pegged.

While I’m a white man, and readily admit that half our race, the conservative half, are tremendous assholes, currently and throughout the history of mankind, isn’t this a bit harsh? Haha! So this is what prejudice feels like. :smile:

Happily, that ain’t gonna be nearly enough!

And I am not taking the heat for such a high percentage of stupid white people!

In this particular case, I beg to differ…

Given her leads with women and minorities, if she just does modestly well with white men she will win by 10-15 points. The GOP base of crazy old white men just isn’t that large. You just can’t piss off a majority of the voting population and expect to win. That is exactly what Trump has done.

well, except… apparently the 30% of us that support Trump are.

that number should be way lower… for the life of me I can’t understand it.

I’ve noticed that white men losing their hair seem to prefer ballcaps.

Never made any sense to me.

I certainly hope you are right. I think it’s fair to wait until the conventions are over before continuing my anti-Hillary speeches. Polls don’t matter a whole lot at this stage, although it is still concerning that Clinton doesn’t have double digit leads over a guy who has no ground game, no field operations, and no campaign overall to speak of. And of course, is a colossal bigoted douchebag with 70% unfavorables.

Only leads by 7%? Seriously?

Yeah, but it’s 49% in dog polling.

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