Discussion: Support From Women, Minorities Gives Clinton Lead Over Trump In New Poll

Every other white voter wants the Sixth Greatest Threat to U.S. Security** in the White House.

Hooray, America.

**The Economist

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Even before considering Drumpf’s abysmal approval with non-white voters, this one stat is deadly. Only having 30% of women who can stand to vote for you is the setting for a colossal beatdown.

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compared to Trump’s lead with white voters (49 percent to 38 percent).

Minority status for Caucasians in the United States can't come soon enough. Extinction level minority status.
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This article implicitly continues the old fallacy about whose votes should really count. Otherwise it would be titled something more like “What’s wrong with White Men” and explore why they’re so out of step with America.

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Just because you disagree with their choice doesn’t mean there is something wrong with them.

I still believe there’s a substantial bump still out there for Clinton when Sanders either concedes and/or even some of his diehards return to reality. Anecdotally speaking, some of the Sanders diehards I know personally or on social media are starting to stand down. Others have said they will begrudgingly get behind Clinton once Sanders is officially out of the race. And I think even more will come on board when they actually start listening to what she’s actually saying as opposed to listening to what someone else is saying she believes.

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No, there something substantially wrong with anyone who would subject this country to Trump. This isn’t a matter of mere disagreement, like boxers or briefs, this is a matter of the safety, security, and we’ll being of the Republic and, particularly, minority groups who would undoubtedly suffer mightily under Trump. Boiling it down to mere disagreement is like saying Nazis and Jews disagreed or black folks and the KKK disagree. It’s far deeper and more consequential than that.

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So we hear that 89% of Dems support Clinton and 87% of GOPers support Trump, but what about people not affiliated with either party? If that breaks hard one way or the other it will make a yyyyuuuuugggeeee difference.

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The real question is WTF is wrong with that 30%.

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Thank you for wishing myself, my wife, my daughter and my extended family dead.

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Nah, go ahead and live out your life. Just try to avoid any further procreation. There’s already way too many people with an affinity for wallpaper, Crocs and Adam Sandler.

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Well said. The fact that I firmly believe that the MSM is fully on board with the Trump pivot could be my cynicism.

Or not.

I would prefer not to find out. Sanders needs to stop the Picture Show and get on board. As do all of us. Trump is the greatest threat to the United States in my lifetime. If fuckers from the MSM want a HorseRace, that’s fine for their stockholders, but it don’t have JackShit to do with the welfare of the country an a functioning nation.

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Hate wallpaper (so hard to get off the bleeping wall!), never worn Crocs (or much of any shoes), and think Adam Sandler is an unfunny boor.

I know you are joking and all, but there are plenty of liberal white folks out there who are as aghast as you are. Painting all white people with one brush is as idiotic as painting all black people or all Asian people or all Latino people with one brush. And just as racist.

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He’s not joking.

You have a point. But for my part, I don’t have personal time or the inclination to attempt to coddle these people or indulge in intellectual diaper changes. They need to own their racial and ethnocentric angst. Part of their “personal responsibility” is recognizing the facts of the matter.

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“She will contend that Trump is a con artist who never delivers what he promises; that Trump’s economic agenda could plunge the country into recession; and that the net effect of Trump’s policies would be to help the rich at the expense of the middle class and poor.”

I read the above about the speech Hillary’s going to be giving today and I thought, so he’ll be like every other Republican president in the last 40 years.

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They are on board. Yesterday NBC News published an article about Lewandowski’s dismissal. Within the article was the following paragraph. It is not the journalists quoting any GOP persons. It doesn’t cite any research to back it. It is simply an editorial comment within a hard news report:

Trump Campaign Manager Corey Lewandowski Ousted
by KATY TUR, HALLIE JACKSON, KELLY O'DONNELL, ALI VITALI , LEIGH ANN CALDWELL and CARRIE DANN


"For those in the GOP establishment and more broadly who have asked and even pleaded, "Is he willing to do what is necessary?" ***Lewandowski's firing is a signal that Trump is willing to do what it takes to win."***

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-campaign-manager-corey-lewandowski-ousted-n595581

Hard news reporters pushing the notion to readers that Trump is going to change his approach to campaigning, in essence act more “Presidential” and professional.
Trump is widely reported to disdain fundraising. He continues to alienate the GOP and RNC, along with entire subsectors of the citizenry. How Lewandowski’s firing changes any of that, or is indicative Trump will at the age of 70 change is a mystery. Yet NBC News editorializes within a hard news article it the transformation we’re about to witness. The media very badly wants this to become a traditional horse race. They fear Clinton running away with it, the race becoming that 37 to zero football game that everyone turns off at halftime and goes to the basement to finish that shelving project.

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Way to group everyone together with that broad brush stroke. The Republicans are proud of you.

I agree…these polls have some interest to me now, but its the post convention polls that I am really waiting for. (And yay to the Cavs for stretching it out to 7 games and only giving the RNC 4 weeks to put theirs together!! Though a week of celebratory riots would have been interesting).

The one thing that popped out at me yesterday when reviewing these polls was that Johnson isn’t pulling mostly from Trump…his support is being drawn pretty evenly from both candidates.

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