Exactly. She’s been spending too much time in the Beltway and NYC because she seems to think that the way her Republican friends treat her privately is the way they’ll behave on TV.
Ah…yes…For a few decades, the public face of the GOP is scary and ugly…no matter how much they make nice in private. I know it’s always been that way to some extent, but it has bloomed like a pandemic since the days of Newt.
But democrats who are part of the Village never see that scary ugly face. And they wouldn’t want to say anything about it because that would make their republican friends uncomfortable.
Ah…yes…For a few decades, the public face of the GOP is scary and ugly…no matter how much they make nice in private. I know it’s always been that way to some extent, but it has bloomed like a pandemic since the days of Newt.
Yep, and the thing about it is that I don’t doubt a lot of those folks who go on TV blowing one dog whistle after another don’t really believe any of it. I have a theory that it’s why people like Nicole Wallace and Steve Schmidt were so shocked by PP. They didn’t pick up on the subtle dog whistles and the low grade crazy that has long plagued their party because they personally knew those engaging in it and knew them to be completely different people once the cameras were off. I think a lot of the Never Trumpers told themselves that the sort of virulent hate was just the wingnut fringe and not the rest of the party. I think there was a lot of “Oh, he/she just says these things, but he/she doesn’t really mean it.” It was only after PP came along did they finally start to realize that it doesn’t matter whether they mean it or not. The results are the same.
The 101st Fightin’ Keyboardists sit at attention, ready for orders.
Ah, that takes me back to 2008-12.
Fun times.
You’re a traitor to the USA, Steve. You need to leave.
Treason is a capital crime. Just sayin’.
We need to help them because it’s the right thing to do. But we’re fooling ourselves if believe they will ever, ever, ever be grateful and vote to keep it.
Hard truths.
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Yep, and the thing about it is that I don’t doubt a lot of those folks who go on TV blowing one dog whistle after another don’t really believe any of it. I have a theory that it’s why people like Nicole Wallace and Steve Schmidt were so shocked by PP. They didn’t pick up on the subtle dog whistles and the low grade crazy that has long plagued their party because they personally knew those engaging in it and knew them to be completely different people once the cameras were off. I think a lot of the Never Trumpers told themselves that the sort of virulent hate was just the wingnut fringe and not the rest of the party. I think there was a lot of “Oh, he/she just says these things, but he/she doesn’t really mean it.” It was only after PP came along did they finally start to realize that it doesn’t matter whether they mean it or not. The results are the same.
I think you are spot on. The more subtle (for lack of a better word) signals were seen as ways to goad their base, but not something that THEY really believed. I think that any GOPers with half a brain or a smidgen of conscience who had used this method of leading the base are now dismayed and even frightened to find that the BASEST members of the base are leading them. “IT’s ALIVE!” Trump is the GOP’s Golem, but instead of being fashioned from clay…he is molded from shit and he is out of their control.
Any improvement will be attributed to their own moral fiber and bootstrapping, to the extent that it’s even perceived. Other people receiving direct assistance will continue to be objects of scorn and disdain.
I once saw a documentary interviewing Kentuckians at a medical clinic whose lives were literally saved by ACA paying the costs, yet they were angrily against that damn Obamacare.
But we get that gun thing here in Pennsyltucky. Just remarked to my son yesterday about the cost of ammo my neighbor shoots off just about every day- “he must be rolling in the dough” (he isn’t). But I never give up on trying to convince my rural neighbors. Sometimes they actually listen and nod.
BTW, the graphic was deleted in the article. Restored:
Note also, as usual, that states are (approximately) by land area rather than population…
This thing that King and fellow idiots who dream of a Civil War is that they dream of the day after the ware ends.
Never the carnage, nor the sacrifice in human casualties for either side.
I had a neighbor, born and raise in SC, who swore the Civil War was coming when Obama was POTUS.
I asked him one question…if troops in US uniforms showed up on your door step, would you shoot at them?
He said no.
I finished by asking… if someone was shooting at US troops, would you shoot at them to protect the troops?.
He said yes.
I then told him that if this was 1866, he just shot Confederate Soldiers.
Blank stare.
Theses guy dream of the outcome that will never be. That’s why they double down on the denial.
IIRC, on Bill Mahrer’s show, he showed a graphic about voters and their primary news source. Did not break each listing as to % Dem / Rep. 19% had Faux News. MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC were at 5%; NYTimes at 3%. His point was for Dems to go on Fox and “attack” the network head-on (segment was about DNC canceling debates on Fox).
Now, how effective that would actually be, I dunno. Perhaps introducing truth & facts into the RW bubble is necessary. However, it may be like injecting a not very good chemo drug into a stage 4 cancer patient: not likely to help
IIRC, on Bill Mahrer’s show, he showed a graphic about voters and their primary news source. Did not break each listing as to % Dem / Rep. 19% had Faux News. MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC were at 5%; NYTimes at 3%. His point was for Dems to go on Fox and “attack” the network head-on (segment was about DNC canceling debates on Fox).
Now, how effective that would actually be, I dunno. Perhaps introducing truth & facts into the RW bubble is necessary. However, it may be like injecting a not very good chemo drug into a stage 4 cancer patient: not likely to help
It sounds good in theory. And maybe if the Dems stick to the more reputable types (Shep Smith or Chris Wallace), they might be able to get some of their message out.
But, Fox has no vested interest in broadcasting the Dem’s message unedited. Just look at the Professor who spoke at Davos who against the extreme consolidation of wealth in the world.
Ding dong tucker interviewed him and the Professor so got the better of tuck, that they didn’t air the interview.
Steve King Shares Meme Speculating About ‘Another Civil War’
Perhaps Rep. King should be reminded of Article 3, Section 3 of the Constitution.
“Honest and passionate”? Surely this is a Foxism equivalent to “fair and balanced,” not Brazile’s own words. If she’s there to actually achieve something, she’s made the wrong move. On the other hand, if it’s a well-paid sinecure that she wanted, Democrats may as well forget about her.
And of course King is too old to fight himself so this is more let’s you and him fight and I’ll watch.
well … actually for King, the avoidance of genuine fighting has never been about age - it is simply that he has always been a chicken hawk - he never had the guts to fight when he was of draft age during Viet Nam - Squeamish Stevie - you know - the adamant anti-intellectual - the “Just say no - to education” phony was fully enrolled in an institution of higher learning in order to have a student deferment - funny thing - his pursuit if ‘higher education’ halted the instant he was no longer in peril of being drafted.
No argument from me about any of that. I agree. hahahaha
I’d go along with Rep. King if we could limit the coming civil war to a duel with pop-guns in a remote, and apparently forgettable, corner of Iowa.
On most TVs, this app will do that. Enjoy! Not that I’m advocating such mayhem.
A Twitter Blood Feud…
Too many people say they’d welcome another civil war, including certain commenters here.
I’ve been on some threads on FB with some SJW types who’ve said they think we’ll need to solve our problems with the ammo box instead of the ballot box.
They were Not Amused when I pointed out that the disempowered they claimed to champion would bear the brunt the hardest.
I got the sense they want to go this route for reasons not clear.
They are the left’s version of the alt-right IMHO.
Mental disorder isn’t partisan.
I still believe people want to respond to truth. I don’t think anyone is unreachable.