“I have never been in the room when someone has said, 'Grab them by the pussy," … “No one’s ever advocated going that step where you get a little bit, ‘Hey I’m going to invade someone’s space.’”
Though Stern built his own reputation on raunchy interviews grilling celebrities about their sex lives, he said there was a line between lewdly describing women’s bodies and boasting about sexual assault.
Yes. Yes there is.
Although personally, I make a policy to do neither.
Though Stern built his own reputation on raunchy interviews grilling celebrities about their sex lives, he said there was a line between lewdly describing women’s bodies and boasting about sexual assault.
Stern said he intentionally brought Trump on air often knowing that he would make “entertaining” and inappropriate comments about women.
“I fully knew what I was doing when I interviewed Trump. I knew I had a guy who loved to talk about sex,” Stern said. “I had a guy who loved to evaluate women on a scale of 1 to 10. These are avenues I went down because I knew it would entertain the audience.”
Say no more…
Howard’s audience of boys loves that talk.
Stern is walking a fine line here. His decision to not release tapes of his on-air conversations with Trump is really aimed at others who go on his show. He’s messaging that, although there might be tapes out there, he won’t be selling his guests out by releasing embarrassing tapes. He’s not taking this position to protect Trump.
…and now those boys want to vote for Trump.
Thanks, Howard.
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And this has been Stern since forever. He isn’t going to allow anyone, much less DT, to destroy Stern’s brand.
Donald Trump hasn’t had a friend in his entire life, most likely.
A certain number of boys of a young age will say something akin to “grab 'em by the pussy”, and then will be corrected by their peers.
Social norming by peer pressure never happened with Trump—not on anything, as far as I can tell. When he became a young adult, his mentor was Roy Cohn…
Can we please, in the very least, acknowledge that Stern is supporting Hillary Clinton??? Stern has said on his show, many times including Monday from which this article is citing, that he supports Hillary, always has and has personally told Trump this. Even Trump is a step way too far for Stern who operates probably the most adult themed radio show in America. Stern can’t even support Trump’s vulgarity. That says a lot!!
Trump: I loved his show. I can’t wait to get back on shows like Stern’s and show my scores during the campaign.
Stern handed Tribblehead Trump the rope that he’s hanging himself with.
Obviously then, you would make a terrible fiasco candidate for President.
In addition to being a tremendous assh*le, Trump is also a reductio ad absurdum of the ridiculous american tendency to award elections to whoever you’d most like to have a beer with. Sure, he’s entertaining from a safe distance and if you forget that he’s been trusted with a lot of people’s money and livelihoods. But fercryingoutloud can we get over the idea that being entertaining of even approachable is any kind of qualification for higher office?
“he [Stern] said there was a line between lewdly describing women’s bodies and boasting about sexual assault.”
Yeah, but not so much of a difference, Howard. With some people, one tends to lead to the other – a gateway drug, if you will. With some, it happens pretty quickly.
I personally consider Howard Stern and his ilk’s form of “entertainment” to be one of the main factors in the civil degradation and stupidification of many in Trump’s cult. For some, it’s a short hop from lewdness to vileness to violence. And apparently it’s hard to turn back from being a mindless, violent oaf.
We can be all high falootin’ here or realistic. Boys and men talk about women’s bodies and are driven by looks and imagery. That’s psychology. Like it or not it’s going to happen and it’s not something we can “stamp out” in order to create the perfectly sensitive society. There is such a thing as locker room talk or the things guys will say while collected around a football game or when shit-talking before hitting the bars. That vent needs to exist. But Howard’s right, there IS a line and the point is teaching it. You see it get crossed once in a while when someone has to respond to something said with “hey, don’t talk about your wife like that…she’s my friend too” or just a “dude, woah, too far, that’s fucked up”. And yet, for all the lewd, crass, boastful blather I’ve engaged in or been present for, it’s not about nonconsensual, unwanted touching or sexual assault as a real thing that happened or as a bragging point and proof of prowess. Ever. Those fuckers who do get isolated and shunned quick by anyone with a shred of decency.
Most? debatable - Stern has a skill - walks along the line - some may feel he is over the line - but he has his hands on the wheel & knows what he is doing - he may have the most listen to adult themed radio show - but there are a number of cruder / less skilled people who go way over the line in a simple clumsy crude grasp at humor(?) - and they gratuitously exceed Stern’s vulgarity
Meh. I don’t buy it. Smut and dirty talk has existed since time immemorial. We’ve done a pretty good job making progress. This whole Trumpism episode is unique (albeit with analogs throughout history) and happening for its own reasons, not easy-answer global generalization reasons, but particular ones unique to our time and the specifics of the cultural and socioeconomic issues and conflicts taking place.
It’s a little late for Stern to attempt to take the high road.