Discussion: Shooter's Father: Farook Was 'Obsessed' With Israel Before Attack

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“I kept telling him always: stay calm, be patient, in two years Israel will no longer exist,” he said, as quoted by USA Today. “Geopolitics is changing: Russia, China, America too, nobody wants the Jews there.”

The son wasn’t the only delusional person in this family…

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And they hired that whackfuck attorney. Telling…

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…proving Netanyahu isn’t the only one with ridiculous, unrealistic beliefs about the other side.

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So is the father in California or Italy, I’ve seen both claims. CBS reported the father saying he did not give this reported quote about ISIL.

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It’s good to see the young generation learning from the wisdom of their fathers.

[Edit: added “see”.]

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With the truther lawyer and now these kind of reprehensible statements, this family is going to do even more serious damage to the Muslim community in the US.

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Rubio: I fully support continued support of all future terrorists to arm themselves with AK47 etc at any time.
Trump: I concur but I would like to torture them/their families if they use the guns on others.

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Clearly the college and workplace friend CBS reported this morning contradict the sister’s remarks about the shooter.

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Agreed. This is also what Trump/Cruz would call: “I told you so”.

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Here’s a quote from the ABC website: “Two attorneys representing Farook’s family have cast doubt on the ISIS connection, and the family members said they never saw anything extreme in Farook or his new wife.”

Well now we get some indication of why that would be the case.

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It’s also worth noting the ‘news’ gathering while excellent at points has been prone to panic and pack reporting…

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I’m glad you pointed this out. There are plenty of extremist Jews who have the same attitude toward Palestinians, if not Muslims in general.

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Religion does so much damage. Imagine telling your father that he has to divorce your mother because of a discussion of religion. Much like the families that oust their gay or transgendered children because their preacher says it’s evil. I know many religious people who believe their interpretation of ‘God’ is correct, but they don’t spend their time trying to force others to agree; they spend their time living what they believe and helping those who are in need. My mother was a devout Catholic but the only people she tried to make believe as she did were me and my sister. When I told her I couldn’t believe, it saddened her, but she never turned away from me.

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I have read that one of those who died was a messianic Jew, who posted on Facebook comments opposing Muslims. Farook was a Muslim who had problems with Israel. Farook left the party in a rage. It is possible that the Jewish guy said something that set him off. I am not excusing murder or shifting blame to the Jewish guy. I do wonder, however, if this was the spark that set the two terrorists into their killing spree.

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It was reported fairly early on that Farook got into an argument with that guy and that was what caused him to leave angrily. I can’t help but wonder if they had originally planned a more overtly political attack and he decided to go after his co-workers because he was so pissed off at this one guy. Which would be in line with Josh’s “why can’t it be both?” editorial, and also the bombs not being ready.

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Most of my relatives are devout Baptists, who are also involved in the religion business. I probably have 10 2nd and 3rd cousins who fit that description, as either missionaries, ministers, or lay leaders. While some are reasonable, others will not talk to me or meet with me. They figure that, since I will be roasting in hell for all eternity, what’s the point of having a coffee with me?

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You know, luckily for the rest of the world, that’s gotta be the most laughable visual aid ever devised.

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That thought occurred to me as well. On a side note, “Messianic Jews” are sort of a Jew-for-Jesus sect, and are not considered Jews by “real”* Jews.

*The quotation marks are only there to indicate that within Judaism what constitutes a real Jew can be a contentious issue.


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Yeah, I understand that. It is possible that the term “messianic” means “fervent”. After all, the Jews are waiting for the Messiah. The Christians state that he has come, Jews are not in agreement. In this case, I interpreted the term as “religious fanatic”, since posting stuff on Facebook is a sign of real zealotry. It’s sad that some people have to express notions that annoy others, and in some cases, it seems like deliberate baiting. Sometimes in work settings, people get into little “mutual aggravation” positions, where they deliberately say stuff to annoy the other person. Could that be the case here?