Graham: We were so effective with Dubya that you can trust us on it.
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Kasich not giving that speech on the ninth should have been a sign. That speech wasn’t likely going to be critical of Trump, it was to address what to with the party, should Clinton have won.
That upset win changed that.
“There will be areas where I don’t agree, and my job then will be to represent a coequal branch of government and speak my mind,”
Hon, you have a wildly out of touch view of yourself. A mirror can be very helpful.
Yeah…riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, Lindsey… You should have started that process 15 months ago.
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I don’t think an invertebrate like Graham is going to stop Trump.
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Compromise means a give and take…The Rs will not GIVE anything of substance to “minimize” damage. They WANT to damage the status quo and permanently maim it. How does one compromise with that?
Debate loudly, call out the BS loudly and vote No on everything loudly. Build up the “I told you so’s” for the midterms then take back the senate. Also work on getting strong candidates for all the R seats.
I disagree. Replacing Schumer by a progressive might bring some left-wing Dems who might have stayed home. But it will not bring back majority of those who switched from Obama to Trump. I believe (just my opinion) those people can be roughly split into two groups: the first group being gullible ones and the second being either racists or religious extremists who knew what they were doing. The second group is hopeless. The first group will remain gullible – they do not go into details of the policy, they did not switch to Trump because Dems were not progressive enough.
On the other hand, replacing Schumer with a progressive will result in Dems loosing some socially progressive, fiscally conservative independents and republicans who either switched to Dems this election or at least seriously though about it. This is not to say that there should not be a discussion of where Dems should go from here nor to say that progressives are wrong on important issues – that is a separate topic that merits a serious discussion and I am open minded. But I do not believe that Dems lost people because of policy differences between Sanders (progressives in general) and Clinton.
Once again, the above is of course my personal opinion and I could be wrong.
On your second point – I am not sure what does it meant to try what Republicans would do. I do not want Dems to openly lie, I do not want Dems to promise things that are not achievable. (Replublicans promise promise things which are impossible not only due to polarization in country and congress, they promise things that are impossible even if there were a consensus on doing them. I do not want Dems to go in that direction.) I would like to have two serious parties in the country, but it is essential that there is one which can distinguish reality from reality tv. So while dems need to improve their outreach, it should not be done in the way republicans acted the last 8, hell - 20, years.
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Ellison is a nice guy but he is the wrong person for the DNC job. Fox News, Hate Radio and Pulpit Pimp Preachers will endlessly demonize Ellison as proof that Islam has hijacked the Democratic Party. We need someone who will work full time to bring back Dean’s 50 state strategy. Ellison isn’t the one to do that.
Not arguing about Bernie’s affiliation. Pointing out that Schumer is not a closet conservative. Whether Schumer is an astute strategist is also possibly in question.
How about that Schumer put Bernie Sanders in a major leadership role and backed Keith Ellison for DNC chair?
I guess I have a different idea of what progressive is and it would include folks interested in middle class protection and reinvigoration. I think we need old hands like Schumer, but he moves more in the orbit of Wall Street and elite circles, that’s who puts food on the table for him. He talks a good game, so does Harry for that matter now that he’s leaving, of course mostly sincere.
I guess I just feel that the future is not with Dem centrist elites who have given us a fully GOP dominated government, but more with people who can identify with the experience of urban, suburban, and rural real middle class people. They’ve got to have the credibility or we are going to keep losing. Nobody is going to fight for middle America except middle America, Schumer is so far removed from that, and so are the clintonites and the obamasards.
I guess it’s academic now, the anointed has been installed irregardless or the situation.