Discussion: Schultz On Racial Bias Training: ‘I Honestly Don’t See Color’

Sigh. How stupid! Of course he sees color and there’s nothing wrong with admitting it. The problem is when we denigrate people’s differences and cultures instead of celebrating them. When you say you don’t see color what it typically means is that you’d just like a nice, homogenized society in which you don’t have to acknowledge or be made uncomfortable by people who are different from yourself.

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It’s called Monochromacy. He should see a good ophthalmologist.

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@Darcy said it pretty succinctly.

As in all aspects of life it’s 5% about us and 95% about how we respond to events our lives present to us.

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This is what one kind of racist always says. It really means, “I just don’t see people of color. I assume everyone is white.”

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Translated:

Honestly, it just makes my life easier not to think about it. Growing up in the middle class projects, we had to make our own fun, and it was while watching Hogan’s Heroes that I learned an important life lesson: “I see nothing” is sometimes the right answer.

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I agree, but I draw the line at celebrating forever surrendering the use of one good arm, as it’s now dedicated to continually holding up your trousers, due to your inexplicable inability at finding a retailer that sells a common pant belt.

Some of my best friends are black, like them

Meh, he doesn’t see poverty either. Probably hasn’t seen the inside of a grocery store in decades, also, too.

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I don’t have the patience to sit through an entire Schultz interview/town hall. I only listen to a clip or two or read excerpted comments.

Ezra Klein, Ron Brownstein and others with a similar observational outlook view Schultz as a threat to Democrats because they say he tends to agree broadly with what they perceive as centrist Democratic views and that his appeal is to wealthy, educated suburbanites. I do not. I think Schultz appeals to the Kleins of the world who are obsessed with this authentic ivory tower conservative or moderate type (think Kasich or McCain) that could appeal to liberals, as if conservatives aren’t actually motivated by culture wars, other social biases and ultimately a desire to maintain current power structures. Klein tried to build up Paul Ryan in this way for years, taking him seriously as a policy wonk and conservative statesmen. Ryan never really outwardly displayed any preference for the GOP’s culture war politics, yet every decision he ever made in the House was driven by it. Klein missed that completely, and the fact that Paul Ryan is an idiot.

The other error I think these commentators make is that they’re defining centrist in reference to a Trump position and that the gap between this so called centrist voter and Trump on this issue would in fact motivate them to vote for Democrats. Trump’s position on immigration is far right, imbued by racism, and is outside the mainstream. But does that really get a Never Trumper to vote Dem? I don’t think so.

I don’t think there is much in Schultz’s message that appeals to Democrats. I think his target is Fox watching white collar Republicans or GOP leaners. He often serves up barbs against Democrats that don’t really have any appeal to Dems. Those barbs appeal to a Fox caricature of Dems. The longer Schultz stays in the race, the more I think he will draw from Trump’s suburban share of the vote.

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Yep… exactly! Colbert’s old line (one form): “I don’t see color. People tell me I’m white… and I believe them because I listen to the Eagles.”

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“I don’t see color, but I do see dead presidents. I like Benjamin the best.”

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I foresee a kilt in your future, or suspenders.

Did he really say “I honestly don’t see color?” If so he has disqualified himself as far as I am concerned. He is an American and has been raised in the American culture. Seeing color is one thing Americans do.

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Damn right, inky.

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This is a Steve Schmidt poll tested campaign pitch. Schulz is the kid from the projects who made it big. What’s not to love?

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How is this guy a threat to Democrats when he sounds exactly like a rightwing libertarian from the 90’s who claims to hate both sides but only attacks Democrats while ignoring the Republicans they vote for? The “I don’t see color” line is meant as an attack on liberals who are the real racists for always talking about racism, not an attack on racism.

The problem is that people imagine there are only two political positions in this country which align with the political parties, so certain people have decided to label themselves moderates or independents if they like things from both sides. That’s why “moderates” in the media who like liberal ideas and Republican politicians and tax policies have a fetish for “independents” who love conservative tax policies but dislike religious conservatives and hate Democrats.

Schultz is an extremist who combined poison pills from both sides that doom any chance of winning. Combining conservative tax policies with liberal abortion policies doesn’t make you a moderate, because conservative tax policy is a myth and liberal abortion policies are mainstream. The media loves him because he’s the mouthpiece for their own extremist views. The reason they’re letting him talk is because he’s saying the things they wish they could: Bashing Democrats because they suck.

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Not enough people know that Schultz is proposing doing away with what he calls entitlements, i.e. Social Security and Medicare. He also wants to be thought of not as a billionaire, but as a “person of means.”

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Agreed. Almost everything Schultz has made the news for so far appears to me to fit right in with what appears to be the current GOP strategy: boost Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s image and hang her like an albatross around the neck of the entire Democratic Party. I disagree with the popular notion that she has them scared. I think they see her views and policy proposals as being so far outside of “normal American” that most Americans won’t support her in the end. If they can successfully tie the Democrats and the party platform to her, they figure they can poison the whole shebang. Trump and his Klan have been doing this from the far right; Schultz has been doing it from the center-right.

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This reminds me of an old gag from The Jeffersons (yes I’m afraid I used to like that show). Some guy had earlier come to the door for some reason and the exaggeratedly “liberal” neighbor was describing him. “He was about 5’10, short hair, glasses, and was wearing blue jeans and green sweater.”
George says, angrily of course, “OK but was he black or white?” And the neighbor proudly answers, “I didn’t notice!””

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We’re doing this right now, i just had to take a webinar on it and next step is a group discussion.

Basically we’re all bias to some degree and in some form, my training focused on 3, i can only remember 2 of them Confirmation Bias and Similarity Bias.