You sound like one of the Corbynistas in the UK.
A bunch of Hillary supporters did last time. They even had created a little name for themselves.
So the box was administered by the government? It wasnât a private server then, was it?
For those that Clinton only read, and didnât write or forward, she still would have been required to report classification slippages that she recognized. But without classification markings, that may have been difficult, especially if the information was in the public domain.
Now way to tell for sure but it sure sounds from the assorted hints that most of this is due to her being sent a newspaper article which discussed matters which were later decided to be super-duper top secret.
That happens. I once knew a professor who had his lifeâs work classified out from under him. Told to stop working on earthquakes which discussed the impact of shock waves on buildings â judges relevant to nuclear war â and take up studying volacanosâŚ
What, do you really want to trust the judgement of those âactual former intelligence officersâ? You mean the ones who for some reason were unable to convince George Bush and/or leak to the public the actual status of WMDs in Iraq?
This looks more like an inside job of swiftboating than anything else.
Sanders is corrupt to give it any credibility whatsoever.
Those believing itâs cut and dry and Clinton did nothing wrong might want to read the actual facts of the case. It is not simple. It is complicated. And that is why it is not going away.
It was handled by her staff. Not people who were allowed to deal with classified information.
When one looks at the way Petreaus who was head of the CIA at the time he handed over loads of files to his girl friend was treated and the steady and sustained attack on Hillary Clinton the hypocrisy is stunning. Of course no one dares attack Colin Powell (even after his dishonest presentation before the Security Council on Iraq;s bomb - which bombed) and Condi Rice who both used personal email accounts. And a convicted thief like Issa gets covered on this topic. By the way even the CNN anchor, an old TPM hand, has no problem striking an attitude when the subject being covered is a Clinton. I am surprised at Bernie: I thought he was better than this.
If we hide Hillaryâs negatives in the primary, they will almost certainly bite her in the ass in the general. The overriding question is: Can Hillary win the general, or will she get a Republican elected due to her negative approval ratings and copious baggage. Hillary supporters donât care, just bow down to their girl and screw the consequences.
Hillary basically gave the same answer, so youâve just made a ridiculous point, Plucky.
Well, no one has even brought up the Lolita Express and Orgy Island yet, so Iâd say the GOP is certainly waiting until the primary.
They werenât running for president. Not a point.
Of course you do because you dislike her. Why then did he claim in the first debate he was sick of hearing about her emails. Now that the race has tightened suddenly they are serious.Look I like Bernie but heâs being disengenuous and sounding desperate
Sorry, weâre in a fact-free, hate Sanders thread. Please take your logic and dispassion somewhere else
She has a far better chance than Bernie and he knows it too
Even though I am supporting Hillary, I was not thrilled to hear about her use of a private server and wish she would have made a different decision â even if technically it was legal. A possible security breech is a âvery seriousâ issue â even if it was unintentional. Always having to qualify oneâs actions â is a political problem!
I think Sanders is not going after her as hard as he could on this because he realizes he has his own electability issues and surely does not want to score points for the GOP. So I realize he is treading pretty darn carefully, while trying to make a strong case for choosing him over her. I hope the legality issue is settled before the end of the primaries. If she is the nominee, and we still have this looming over her going into the general, we are in big trouble. In the meantime, it does us no good to hate on either of them over this â it only helps the GOP.
I recall 11 hours of questioning by the Congressional Committee: nothing came of it. Let us wait for the FBI report: there are some well placed Republicans left over from the Bush admin - they could be the ones dishing dirt.
Thatâs the example her folks keep pointing to, and if that is really representative of all 22 of the e-mails that have been deemed âtoo classified to be releasedâ (even in redacted form), then obviously itâs complete and utter bullshit. There is no way a NY Times article, already easily accessible to the public, should be marked âTop Secret,â and even less justification for criticizing Hillary for not treating it that way given that it apparently wasnât marked that way when it was sent to her.
The problem is, thereâs a bit of a Catch-22 going on here, because by definition they arenât releasing any of these âtoo classified to be releasedâ e-mails (not even in redacted form, I think) so itâs pretty hard for the public to judge for themselves whether they should have been classified in the first place, whether this âretroactiveâ classification makes any sense, and whether Hillary âshould haveâ realized they were sensitive info that âshould haveâ been classified. But the NY Times article â that seems like a pretty obvious of (pointless) over-classification of info thatâs already out there.
I think she has a far less chance, myself. Itâs all supposition and your opinion is not fact.
Yeah like Politifact has such a good record on reporting the factual truth. NOT
Well, when someone ends a sentences with âNOTâ I am generally swayed.