That says how I feel now. I like the guy, which makes it even more disappointing.
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Bernie, no, itās not a serious issue. Itās (forgive the expression) trumped-up bs by the Benghazi!!! committee, W-appointed government moles and GOP operatives, fueled by the intelligence communityās insane bent for overclassification (newspaper articles? talking points? unclassified stuff unthinkingly sent over the classified system once? Really?), eagerly purveyed by the āmainstream mediaā ā about a bunch of emails none of which was deemed classified at the time. No, Bernie, itās not a serious issue. And as a Clinton supporter whoās nonetheless loved you for years and will certainly vote for you if youāre the nominee, I can no longer say Iāll do so wholeheartedly. Shame on you for this.
(Oh, and anyone who thinks if only Clinton had used a government account this wouldnāt be an āissueā is delusional.)
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What rules? Using an external server?
That was within the rules (and, in fact, John Kerry is the first SoS to exclusively use the State Departmentās servers).
Handling of āclassifiedā info?
The only assertions that Iāve seen substantiated would appear that the āsensitiveā items werenāt considered as such when sent (All ādroneā related content being āclassifiedā, even if itās a link to a NYT story).
Also, the State Department email system that would be the alternative isnāt secure either, so itād not be any different with regard to āclassifiedā data.
Itās interesting how something, like using an external email server, thatās been common suddenly becomes THE WORST THING EVER, and needs to be investigated with an electron-microscope when itās Hillary doing it. If I were cynical, I might think that this is yet another of the standard āwhere thereās smoke, thereās fireā tactics that republicans have been making use of for decades (more Benghazi! anyone?).
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pat langās blog; esp from his regular commenters/contributors.
although there seems to be a building consensus that sheāll skate, just like petraeus.
Iowa is slipping away from him. Slipping away for Tapper too. They put so much effort into the āhorse raceā.
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Not sure why people want Sanders to act like Hillaryās legal counsel here and insist there was no crime committed when he has no way of knowing that. If it was just being investigated by a GOP House committee on a witch hunt that would be one thing. But itās being investigated by law enforcement and it seems like a reasonable possibility that her decisions compromised the security of important information. Sorry, folks, that is a serious issue and no reason for Bernie to deny that. Is it the most important issue facing voters? No. And Sanders has gone out of his way to say as much. Even here he didnāt bring it up and is only acknowledging itās not nothing.
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#FeeltheBurden
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I see nothing wrong in Bernieās statement at all. If one of us was being investigated by the U.S. Government, we wouldnāt assume a cavalier attitude and just shrug it off. Iām sure we would consider it a āvery serious issueā. I know I would.
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Iām disappointed but in TPM not Bernie.
This headline is click bait-y and misleading. It creates the impression that he brought it up. He didnāt and used the question to pivot to talking about issues that actually matter to middle class voters.
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I just donāt see this as being a winning strategy for Sanders at all, if in fact he thinks it is a strategy. This garbage will cement his hold on his followers but I donāt see this as a strong gambit for picking up anyone else.
Heās pretty much gotten all the followers heās going to get. His politics are so far to the left, he canāt get anyone else. By sinking into the mud of innuendo, he might even lose some of the adherents he has now.
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Poor Hillary supporters, so happy when Hillary fights dirty, so outraged when Bernie makes an even slightly derogatory comment about her.
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What, in his statement, focused on matters pertaining to middle class voters?
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In fact, Clinton is not a target of the FBI investigation. More likely, theyāre investigating whether other people who sent emails theyāve since determined contained classified content had improperly not labeled them as such.
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Bernie gave his position on Hillaryās emails in that debate. Did a lot of good, didnāt it. What he is saying now is: āWhy are you asking me? The FBI, or somebody, is investigating it. Iām not an investigator, like Darrell Issaā¦ A journalist is supposed to inform the public with the truth. Go ask the FBI instead of a politician and become a journalistā
Does anybody see how the idiot press leads your thoughts?
Think about Bernieās wisdom. Go Bernie!
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Iām thinking some of the commenters here havenāt watched the full question and answer, but are going ballistic based on the click-bait spin.
Bernie didnāt create this mess, Hillary did, with some poor choices, and more importantly the Republicans did, by shamelessly politicizing the whole thing. Bernie has called out the Republicans for the latter, and hasnāt piled on Hillary for the former. But apparently that isnāt good enough, he should also claim knowledge he doesnāt have about whether there was any wrongdoing or not, and should opine on national TV, when asked directly, that the handling of Top Secret documents is not a āserious issue.ā
So I think itās pretty amazing that (some) Hillary supporters seem to think Bernie should be doing even more to protect Hillary on this issue, which, again, he did not create, and which he has very pointedly refused to make an issue of.
I encourage Hillary supporters who are expressing āoutrageā about this to consider how much more difficult this whole issue might be for her if she had an opponent who was truly āattackingā her on this issue, rather than just failing to defend her in exactly the way her supporters would like. (But perhaps these are the same kind of supporters who agree with the Clinton campaignās shark-jumping claim that Bernie is running the most negative campaign of any Democratic primary campaign in American history ā while at the same time ignoring stuff like Clinton attack dog David Brockās disgusting āblack lives donāt matter to Bernieā smear.)
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So, just to get things clear in my own mindā¦ it was OK for top secret emails to be stored on a server setup by someones nephew, is that correct? Seems odd that the NSA goes to such lengths to secure OSās (selinux, anyone?) yet itās OK to put top secret stuff on an unpatched Windows 98 box. Who knew?
(Iām not suggesting it WAS a Windows 98 box, or it was setup by someoneās nephew, but if using your own server, without federal oversight is OK, then thatās what weāre saying).
EDIT: BTW, As far as Iām concerned, the GOP can stick the whole server up their collective (not bargaining) arses, but saying that this isnāt a serious issue (that needs to be put to bed once and for all) is a little disingenuous.
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Gee, thanks, CaffinatedOne, you just made this entire comment thread top secret and exposed our beloved TPM to an FBI investigation of exactly how the word ādroneā came to be stored on their servers.
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Iām choosing my dvdās for tomorrow. I donāt need
ALL IOWA ALL THE TIME ALL DAY AND NIGHT !!!112!!!22!!!111!!1!1!1!one!!!
on every news program
Itās depressing how the talking heads frame this as āif so-n-so wins Iowa then the nomination is settled.ā Are there no other primaries? Do no other voters matter? If Iowa settles everything why hold a convention or a general election at all?
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I thought that Iowa was notorious for pick the LOSER? Michelle Bachman, anyone?
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Remarkably coherent responses to this post. It is amazing to me how the possibility of being POTUS affects what comes out of a politicianās mouthā¦and despite what his supporters maintain, Senator Sanders is a politician. Anyone who runs for POTUS has to have an enormous ego to think they can handle the toughest job in the world and that includes Senator Sanders. It is my opinion that there is no way in the world that Sanders can be elected in this country at this time. I donāt think it would matter who the GOP put up against him (and Rove knows this). There are too many pragmatic Democrats who are uneasy at best with the idea of a ārevolutionā and although they might not vote for GOP, they might stay home. If by some chance he were to be elected, in what universe would the Congress we have today pass any of his legislation? And then, as President Obama found out, when people are disillusioned, they donāt vote in mid-terms (Iāll show you, Iāll hurt me) and we end up with the Congress we have today. No thanks. #ImWithHer
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