The former editor of the Burlington Free Press who covered Bernie for about eight years has some things to say about him, and he begins with
Hereās my problem with Bernie Sanders. With few exceptions, I agree with his positions on issues. But I donāt like him or his political temperament. Heād be an awful president.
Sanders was always full of himself: pious, self-righteous and utterly humorless. Burdened by the cross of his socialist crusade, he was a scold whose counter-culture moralizing appealed to the stateās liberal sensibilities as well as its conservatives, who embraced his gun ownership stance, his defense of individual rights, an antipathy toward big corporations and, generally speaking, his stick-it-to-them approach to politics.
Thatās never been my favorite kind of progressive. One big reason to top my list: They tend not to get elected. Thereās more, but thatāll do to go on with.
And this āshe started itā argument is just warmed-over Trumpish whining. Bernieās just shrinking before our eyes with all this. Itās a shame.
Succinct description from a long time observer!
I got really tired of Bubba āhelpingā Hillary in 2008ā¦ and Iāve said it here a couple timesā¦
while itās sorta commendable that he wants to defend his wife I have to think that thatās just as much of a knee-jerk sexist reaction as heās accusing Sanders ofā¦
Hillary is a smart, intelligent and experienced womanā¦ she really doesnāt need Bubbaās help hereā¦ sheās perfectly capable of defending herselfā¦
Sanders continued saying the Clinton campaign had become āvery negativeā and āabout to beat us up.ā
Project much?
As it turns out Bernie is an OLD-FART. Explain to me BERNIE, how it is that your CAMPAIGN stole records FROM the DNCā¦AND you admitted you knew about it, but YOU said you didnāt condone it AND YOU SAID, those records WOULD NEVER be usedā¦ WHY am I getting e-0mails from YOUR campaign??? I NEVER registered with you. I unsubscribed to the DNC years agoā¦Iām registered with HILLARYāS campaign. BERNIBE SANDERS IS A FāG LAIR.
FEEL THE BERN??? Ya YOU will BERNIE after YOU FIND out who NY LOVESā¦
Weāre going to SCORCH THE EARTH WITH YOU BERNIE
But his supporters are getting nastier by the day.
Had to laugh looking at the HIVE the other day on the topic of āWe (Bernie supporters) told you (our fellow liberals) soā - Iāve been reading TPM for 16 years and hardly recognize anyone on that thread and after briefly reading through it, it appears to be a circle jerk conversation amongst themselves. The title to that thread is so childish it should be embarrassing.
It makes me sad that their demeanor reminds me of the Tea Baggers with better spelling.
Amen and hallelujah
Liar. You are a right winger.
Hereās the thing about that, though. As a woman, I can tell you that more often than not, when you point out sexism, the response you get, especially from men, is that you either donāt know what you are talking about, you are overreacting, or, my favorite, that you are just being āsensitive.ā So, for many women, we know itās there but we canāt call it out without being dismissed.
I think this is the same thing that Obama faced with race in 2008. He knew there was some coded and not so coded racism being tossed in his direction, but if he was the one who called it out, heād be accused of āusing the race cardā even by some people who were supporters. The speech Obama gave on race in March 2008 was one of the most thoughtful and beautiful addresses heās ever given, yet he still received a lot of push back.
I donāt think it was until the rise of the Tea Party that it became starkly clear for a lot of white people that there was and still is an ugly racist underbelly in this country. I am left to wonder what it will take for all of us to be able to admit that there is still sexism that needs to be addressed? What could/should Hillary say to bring it to the spotlight and even if she chose to speak the truth, would we be ready to admit that sheās right?
My take is, it is a knee jerk response to defend his own record.
Rebecca Schoenkopf at Wonkette has been very funny about all this backseat squabbling. Her latest warning in a Bernie-oriented post:
Remember, kids, THEYāRE BOTH GOOD. THEYāRE BOTH FINE, and anybody being more of a dick than usual in the comments will be banished back to Daily Kos with a quickness.
I commend that thought to the mods here. : )
This is what Clinton fatigue feels like. And itās only April.
I started as a Warner supporterā¦ when she passed I moved to Bernieā¦ now Iām leaning toward neutral
but honestlyā¦ I want the bickering to stopā¦ itās NOT necessary and doesnāt advance what should be a civilized conversation about ISSUESā¦
leave the bullshit to the Republicansā¦
Where has she been negative? Thatās incredibly not true. Itās an excuse because his campaign is so very negative - it might as well be run by Goodman and Iām not sure it isnāt.
Canāt hear Clinton over the bickering of her āsupportersā. Certainly her supporters are nothing but negative. Belligerently, repulsively, relentlessly negative; and it has rubbed off on the candidate, or, more likely, it emanates from the candidate. I mean why would āsupportersā go out of their way to tick people off unless their candidate asked them to?
Iām confused at your response. Can you help me understand, what in my response you would construe as either uncivilized or bullshit?
O please - go to HuffPo open any random election story and read the nastiness from the Sanders camp. It has been like this from the very start. Are you going to maintain that people like Goodman havenāt been publishing crap all over the internet for over 6 months with titles like: Hillary is a cancer on the body politic; Hillary will bring back the draft; Hillary is the biggest war hawk in the country; Hillary is worse than Hitler - ok I made up the last one.
I didnāt make up the rest.
Iāve taken down my subscription to HuffPo; Iāve had unfriend I donāt know how many people on Facebook for the truly vicious things they have posted about Hillary - nonstop all the time. Hillary supporters have not been nasty in that way.
So your excuse is āthey started itā. How childish.