Ya know, that makes sense. Thanks.
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Sanders has not been subjected to the onslaught that Clinton has faced, and if heās the nominee, itāll be epic.
Thereās a reason why Republican SuperPacs are running ads against Clinton, and for Sanders, and it isnāt because they think Sanders is genuinely the better choice.*
*Actually, Karl Rove does think Sanders is genuinely the better choice. For the GOP.
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Thatās why youāre cleaning Hillaryās clock in the dem primariesā¦oh, wait!
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Yes, because nothing says 'merica, like two old white guys screeching and pointing their fingers at each otherā¦
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Same goes for Hillary supporters. The big question I have to ask is, why on earth did the democratic party let berns run as a dem? Heās an indy, he should have ran as one!
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Theyād do it to anybody, not just Sanders. So, the question is, has Hillary proven herself immune because sheās gone through it, or damaged because she gone through so much of it. Guess weāll find out.
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Personally, I believe that Hillary Clinton is far more electable than Bernie Sanders might be in a general election ā once the Republican opposition bombard the voters with scary visions of socialism (which will be equated to USSR-style communism). Bernie is a really good person, but he hasnāt been through anything. Republicans are peeing their pants with joy Sanders is doing so well.
Let me state for the record that I believe Senator Bernie Sanders is a wonderful person with some great ideas and goals for the American people. I will have no problems pulling the lever for him should he succeed in winning the Democratic nomination. The GOP and FOX Entertainment will start a non-stop 24-hour (dis)information campaign about healthcare, free market and socialism. He hasnāt weathered anything. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, has withstood the barrage of lies and disinformation the GOP and their various media have been throwing at her since the 1990s (and even before that when she lived in Arkansas). I also have serious concerns that many of the younger people Sanders is greatly appealing to right now are not reliable voters. I hope my concerns and fears will prove to be for nothing.
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Nader.
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But this was all eloquently Joshsplained away today, under the āBig Surpriseā heading. āThis win does not have those kinds of implicationsā. It just doesnāt. The waters have been calmed, there is no such thing as Bernie Sanders.
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Me too!
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Iām afraid thatās on berns agendaā¦
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And heās treating this win as itās Trenton
Iām good for whatever, but when he thinks that heās going to go crazy out west, go for it.
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I like Obama, I like Hillary, but thereās a reason why itās tough for the incumbent party to carry much momentum into a third term. Sheās still almost certain to win the nomination, and should still win the general, but thereās an advantage in going into the summer with a candidate who represents a break with the incumbent. Bush Sr went ākinder, gentlerā of course in '88; McCain failed to differentiate himself from Bush, and we all now what happened to poor Al Gore. For all his disadvantages, Sanders represents a clean break, and that can be a big plus.
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Bernie has very specifically, very directly stated ā repeatedly ā that he will support the nominee and not run as a third party / independent in the general. He supported Gore over Nader, and criticized Nader for running as an independent, and has specifically pointed out the dangers of the āspoiler effect.ā
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Iām okay as long as we donāt see President Anyone-From-The-Nutjob-Party. Having said that, what you said is what I fear. As for Hillary, itās fair to assume her numbers already incorporate and reflect most information of her history ā both her positives (her legislative/administrative experience as a Senator from NY, SecState, etc) and negatives (decades of right wing attacks, her Iraq vote, etc etc). Bernie started from almost zero, and thus far in the absence of close media scrutinies and attacks from the right, he has mostly been able to keep building one way up. It is still a huge unknown (and necessarily so as it hasnāt happened) what would happen once the Republican side unleashes their smearing/attacking machine against him.
Iām not necessarily saying he couldnāt handle right-wing attacks. Attacks are fully expected, we know what kind of attacks would come as well, and therefore he should be fully prepared to counter. And Pres Obama was in a similar position in 2008 after all. Then again, Bernie is not an Obama in many ways that are critical in the general election.
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But, from what Iām seeing, thatās the situation we have now. Itās essentially Nader within the Dem primary.
I mean, if we look at Maine, where LePlague was only able to muster up a plurality, Cutler destroyed the situation for the Dems not once but twice. ME Dems ran a good candidate in the form of Michaud. But Cutler insisted that he was viable. Twice proved to be wrong. But it still gave LePlague the plurality because not enough people saw what really was a realistic candidate.
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Trump will be using his middle finger.
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We will hear more about Hillary enabling blowjobs than we can possibly imagine if she is the candidate. Both candidates are going to draw lots and lots of fire. That goes with the territory.
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Shhh
Keep that dream alive
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Oh. ā¦ NOW he is a Democrat!! Really! Before he couldnāt be bothered! He is just using the Democratic Party. He should have run as an independent, which he has always claimed that he is!
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