Not just minorities, I’m a middle aged white guys living in the burbs now and this is EXACTLY how I feel about it.
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Co-sign.
geo@one-of-those-POC.
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Patently false.
Bernie has gotten about 42% of the Democratic vote in the primaries so far.
Hillary has gotten about 49%.
Bernie has gotten a lot of independent voters, but not 60%.
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Make that four. I was highly offended a few weeks ago to see Trump and Sanders presented as two sides of the same coin. I’ve since looked a little closer and while I do not equate the two, they are both running on the fuel of anger and disappointment rather than rolling up sleeves and getting to work. I am very surprised to find myself off the fence and in Hillary’s camp now.
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Obama wanted to transform America away from the hard right vision promoted by Reagan. Now tell me again why Hillary is running. This time don’t just insult me. Tell me why she wants to be President.
Ha Ha - the new buzzword from the Sanders campaign - the Southern firewall. As someone who owns a vacation home way down in Dixieland I am proud of that characterization. FINALLY there is something a southern Democrat can be proud of. Who would have thought Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana were liberal strongholds. Maybe that means they won’t kick us out of our neighborhood when I put out my HRC sign. And maybe we can get Gene Taylor back in office after his two defeats by a tea partier. This is best yet.
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Nobody is aiming for what they’re willing to settle for. That’s not what the “incrementalist” argument is about. It’s about recognizing that you can have short-term and long-term goals all at the same time! Yes! You really really can! You can have it all! What’s more, it’s about recognizing that sometimes (and the ones we’re living in are some of those times), achieving short-term goals is, in fact, how you eventually achieve your long-term goals. Even further, its about recognizing that sometimes, trying to turn a long-term goal into a short-term goal can jeopardize achieving anything at all.
This isn’t about settling. Never has been. More fool you guys for buying that line of crap.
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Because we want her to run.
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I like your comment. It is an honest reflection of your point of view.
Now tell me just what can Hillary achieve that Obama hasn’t? The Republicans are still going to control the house and will be able to block anything in the Senate. The Congress not the Presidency is the institution that needs a revolution.
Let’s see Missouri - which is my voting state - are we part of the Southern firewall or the Midwest firewall. And my husband!'s voting state is California which can a be west, south and north firewall. Trying to cover them all.
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hmm strange that huffpo and salon don’t think this story is worth a mention…or, you know, 18 think pieces like the DeBlasio joke-gate
Nope. Not my first rodeo by any means.
And if Sanders were to win (which isn’t likely anyway), you would either vote for him, or you’re the one suffering from a case of childishness and naivete, not me.
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I rather think there are a lot, maybe a majority, of younger liberals out there like me who like Sanders and his agenda and policy positions and would happily vote for him.
Of course there are many younger liberals who would be happy to vote for him… That’s who Sanders supporters are. But to unite the party, he would need to appeal to people who don’t already support him.
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Perhaps the context was lost on you: I’m a Clinton supporter.
I don’t have to worry about it. He won’t be the nominee.
Because your party is doing so well.
That’s not a valid argument in response to a hypothetical.
Which is probably why they are “disappointed” in Obama. You mean, nothing immediately changed? WTF?
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Just odd to talk about young liberals when bringing up Sanders uniting the party. Young liberals aren’t where his problems are.
I feel for you, Mr. Byers, I really do. And thank you for your part in doing the necessary work. The Cali Dem Party was also calcified and ineffectual during those horrible years – 80’s and 90’s and half of this century. It was terrible, discouraging, heartbreaking. I posted a graphic above that showed the state of the Dem Party in the decades you are talking about.
What didn’t help was all the lame attempts to move to a radicalized left party. What didn’t help was demanding that we tear down the banking system, throw out all of the corporations, jail all of the recacitrant politicians, give away free lunches, scoff at and ignore (and worse) all of the diverse members of our party such as Latinos, African-Americans, women, and go all in on an affluent white liberal wet dream.
What did help was taking steps to rebuild the party, partnering with our emerging minority majority, passing legislation to reform the redistricting process. It wasn’t glamorous, empty feel-goodism like what Bernie is offering, but the hard steps of making the Party work for the citizens. We shall see how long we can hold that.
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