Discussion: Sanders Campaign Threatens Lawsuit Against DNC For Blocking Data Access

He said some, and looking at the post here, he isn’t wrong.

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The only thing that might get me to consider voting for Clinton would be if Clinton asked for Shulz’s immediate resignation for favoritism incompetence. Otherwise this confims my opinion of Clinton as a sneaky backstabber who would rather play the refs than appeal to the voters.

Yep… Sanders sure his helping the left and isn’t splitting the party. Go Nader, i mean Sanders

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You’d think they’d be smarter than that, but it wouldn’t be the first time that people have made bad political decisions based on gamesmanship.

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Once again.

Who accessed the data they werent allowed to?

What do you think the DNC tried to entrap Sanders?

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Maybe NGP-VAN should store the DNC voter data on Hillary’s home server?

Our firm, eMerges has been selling voter data for over a decade, long before NGP-VAN. They are essentially “hacks” who are deeply ingratiated with the DNC. The real story here is NOT that the Sanders team got caught snooping on the Clinton campaigns registered voter data but rather:

  1. NGP-VAN abjectly and totally failing to secure sensitive voter data.

  2. The DNC denying the Sanders campaign due process while not punishing NGP-VAN for gross negligence.

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That’s already been done. Perhaps if he insulted Rachel Maddow…

Actually, the splitting is being done by the rabid Clinton supporters. Sanders supporters would accept that their candidate lost in a fair primary, but the favoritism shown to Clinton by the DNC means this is not a fair primary, Debbie’s got her thumb on the scale for Hillary every time, and Clinton supporters will promote a lie if they think it will help eliminate Clinton’s competition.

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Oh i am all for them doing something like getting a better vendor.

But Sanders group admitted wrong doing, what due process do you want?

Also its been less then a day, if this dragged on for weeks you may have a point but its been like hours not days not weeks.

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Democrats fighting Democrats and looking shifty in the process. Cut it out, DNC and Hillary camp. I will VIGOROUSLY support whichever candidate wins the Democratic nomination, but I want to see a fair and honest fight. Nobody wins when Democrats engage in infighting. Let’s leave the civil war to the Rethugs.

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I like Bernie Sanders. Those “which candidate closer to your views” questionnaires tell me Bernie is most sympatico
But imagine President Sanders or worse President Rubio/Cruz/Trump

Time for Bernie to go,

Court House doors are open Bernie

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OH MY GOD, complain about the dam debates more. PLEASE, because the debates really are the things that have sky rocketed Sanders. Expect not.

This isn’t the Republican party, there isn’t 200 people on stage.

He isn’t even out campaigning as much as Hillary, and yet its just this non stop complaining about how if only there was a few more debates this race would be in the bag for Sanders.

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The “rabid” is going to have to go AGAINST Republicans in the General. This means that the GOP shenanigans that are now taking place won’t fit the Democratic style. HRC’s wingman is still Sanders…and, if she gets the Nomination (which seems likely) one of her first priorities is to make an accord with Sanders. Without the vast bulk of his supporters… :worried:

These types of snags (and there will be more) should be taken care of by the professionals both Bernie and Hillary are.

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Once again.

Who accessed the data they werent allowed to?

What do you think the DNC tried to entrap Sanders?

I’m not sure who you are condescendingly responding to. I never said that the DNC tried to entrap Sander’s campaign. I merely suggested that bone-headed moves (i.e., decisions that back-fire) are made all the time in politics.

I mean, after all, who thought that voting to authorize the Iran War would turn out to be a bad move for the 2008 election? :wink:

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Wouldn’t it be a real clusterfuck if it turns out someone at the DNC accidentally (or worse, intentionally) mislabeled the data files for each of these respective campaigns following some technological misappropriation, and then re-located the database files in the wrong location for access? So, instead of the firewall being breached through a backdoor at the Sanders campaign, a front-end screwup at DNC headquarters could be found to have occurred. Is that a possibility?

That would flip out people’s shit completely if that were found to have happened. I hope there’s a good way to know which end of the fuckup can be determined.

I’m sure you can tell from my limited knowledge of these things and my awkward hypothesis, I’m no computer geek.

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I haven’t seen any Clinton supporters saying they wouldn’t vote for Sanders (for that matter I’ve seen few “rabid Clinton supporters”, which the Sanders people like to keep reminding everyone ad nauseum is a bad thing). OTOH at least 50% of Sanders supporters - certainly those responsible for about 80% of actual comments, on both forums like this and FB - have declared that they will never, EVER vote for Clinton, because she’s beholden to the big banks and therefore exactly the same as the Republicans. Which, as someone who was in college during Nader’s 2000 campaign, is so fucking stupid it drives me into a rage every time I see it.

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Admittedly, the vendor is incompetent. That does NOT excuse the Sanders camp from what they did. No. way. And what “due process” are they due when they admitted what they did happened?

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All users on the system across Democratic campaigns were inadvertently able to access some data belonging to other campaigns for a brief window, not just Bernie’s. But Bernie’s campaign is the only one being blocked from accessing even the tiniest portion of the voter files.

And how did the DNC learn of this - oh yeah - the Sanders campaign notified them!

The root cause of the problem is poor security by the vendor,who were told of firewall issues 2 mothss ago but did nothing.

I doubt very much that Sanders was even aware of it, much less ordered it - he just does not strike me as being (1) that net savvy and (2) that dishonest.

The DNC is shooting itself in the foot on this one.

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Cui bono Bernie?

HRC leads you by 25% per Real Clear Politics Average and so while you peddle paranoia, the fact is that your people stole data and your candidacy has neither point nor purpose.

Time for Bernie to go

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Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a very, very stupid woman.

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