The amount of time that these grownups spend trying to make each other look petty instead of trying to solve real life problems is the best reason for term limits. They are trying to make careers out of these cushy jobs and spend the majority of their time trying to find ways to stay there. It’s disgusting when you consider some naive people still believe their campaign promises and are holding out hope for help in their daily lives.
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And this kind of crap is what passes for legislation and governance in today’s House. These Republicans act like a bunch of high school sophomores trying to rig an election for class officers. These idiots think gotcha politics is statesmanship
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If the reporting is accurate, then this is a good illustration of the threat of a unified Democratic caucus. Take note, donkeys.
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Disagree. “Abolishing ICE==open borders!” is a Republican ploy that demonstrates nothing but ignorance. ICE doesn’t even patrol the borders, CBP does.
There is nothing preventing the legitimate functions of that agency from being given to other more functioning entities.
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Two schools of thought, I suppose. I tend to side with the more bombastic approach because people are stupid, undereducated, lazy, blind, pig-brained morons who need to get shocked into woke-ness to get them to pay any attention in the first place. Nuance falls flat and functions as a soporific. But, in this particular instance, I agree that the more nuanced/refined “replace” would’ve been a better choice because “abolish” just dovetails too well with the GOP’s messaging. Perhaps better to think of the approaches as two different tools in the belt, applicable as appropriate.
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Like I said, you and I know that. But the labeling just enables the Republican ploy. And it works.
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Really, “get rid of government” is a core Republican message, not a Democratic one. “Make government better” is much more in line with who we are.
Fixers, not destroyers.
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“Abolishing ICE==open borders!” is a Republican ploy that successfully exploits widespread ignorance
FIFY
Go collect 20 people at random and let’s see who understands the different duties, jurisdictions and activities of ICE and CBP.
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You would be preaching to the choir. OTOH, his supporters are unmoved by his treatment of children and families. Letters to editor shows they blame the victims. “They should have stayed home”.
A deep, deep hatred of Hispanics drove his supporter to the polls. If he murdered these families his supporters would condone, if not applaud it. And I’m being only slightly hyperbolic.
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2500+ kids have not been reunited with their parents. But hey let’s pass a resolution that solves nothing.
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Not sure why “Ryan foils GOP plot” is the headline. Gives Ryan props for overseeing a GOP own goal. Doesn’t give the props to the Dems, who finally appear to have got the better of the GOP by agreeing to abstain en bloc. How about “Pelosi outmaneuvers Ryan”? Or “Dems run rings around GOP”? Let’s take the credit when we can, shall we? It will accurately boost our D Congress critters and Ds everywhere.
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Not sure this is so easy. A vote to abolish ICE would look like a vote to abolish the police department. No one in their right mind would vote for that, even with well known police abuse. This agency needs to be reigned in but I don’t think this was a ‘reign in’ or ‘reform’ type of bill. I do think it was intended as a trap and I fear it would be damaging.
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Agreed, “replace/reform ICE” plays a lot better to the masses than to abolish. Because the idea of abolishing ICE plays into the fears of every scared white person, and some black ones too, that immigrants will be allowed to come in unchecked and take all the jobs.
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Indeed. However, “Dems just want to make gov’t bigger” is also a core GOP messaging strategy, so care needs to be taken to not dovetail with that as well. “Better” is easily mischaracterized as “code” for “bigger.” Fortunately, for this particular situation, “abolish” and “replace” both sort of undermine that false equivalence.
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Totally agree. Perhaps “abandons” or “retreats from” or something of that nature would be more accurate.
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And the alternative doesn’t make the GOP seem petty and unserious? The country is facing (largely GOP created) challenges and Republicans are wasting their time with this?!
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“ICE: BE BETTER” haha
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worrying that … making the Republicans look petty and unserious.
Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaaaaa (barely taking a breath) hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaheeeeeee.
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OT, but they will simply never give up trying to invent reasons it was Obama’s and.or Cilnton’s fault…
Yep, that’s right…it’s all HRC’s fault that Russia did it…BECAUSE HER EMAILS…and you can take all those pieces of circumstantial evidence that strongly suggest there was collusion with the Trump campaign and simply ignore them thank you very much.
EDIT: Yep…they just moved this to the top article ont he front page of the Faux News website, under the headline “Putin’s server hack likely intended to frighten Hillary, not help elect Trump: former AG”. This is going to be the new talking point all week and you can bet your ass it will show up in a Trump tweet. Because, you know, Mukasey is TOTALLY privy to all the information the DOJ and FBI et al. have at their fingertips that led them to the obvious conclusion that it was all, in fact, to help Trump.
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Gramps is up and cranky. Do note the “even better meeting” with Poots
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