I expect snowflake howls and spittle laden ravings over at Breitbart and similar hangouts for the alt-right. Regardless of his self-promotion seems that Richard Spencer isn’t having a great time and altering the discussions/thinking in his adopted state.
“The decision was backed by Bishop Mark Bourlakas of the Southwestern Virginia Diocese who said the debate has been a “costly process both spiritually, financially and emotionally” for the church.”
I suspect that ain’t over either.
“The Robert E. Lee Memorial Church in Lexington, Virginia — which the Confederate general attended — has voted to change its name…”
So the congregation finally grasped all those readings from the Book of Exodus?
Hahahaha…please please please let Todd Starnes write a ranting hysterical article about this so I can laugh my everloving ass off at him…
It was a narrow victory — the vestry voted 7-5 — for members of the congregation who have been requesting a name change since a white supremacist killed nine black people at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston two years ago.
that’s troubling
I can’t deliver that, but this response by Frum to a ridiculous (but predictable) tweet by Franklin Graham, made me chuckle. Don’t know how to link the tweet which embeds the Graham Tweet.
Which is in response to this:
someone should remind Billy’s son, that ‘45’ used God as an election tool in '16.
Who do you think handed the tool to ‘45’?
Trump: AmeriKKKan Jesus is very very pissed.
No thread on this yet, but I came away from the Northam-Gillespie debate feeling optimistic, not just about Northam but about where white suburban voters are shifting in the US. Northam has an easy southern drawl but there was no compromise from him on liberal values. From Charlottesville, to the travel ban to DACA, to Graham Cassidy, to the VA Leg constant attempts to pass discriminatory legislation, to education, investment and tax policy, Northam stated the liberal position clearly and smoothly.
Gillespie also did not come at this debate from a far right angle for the most part. He sounded like a guy that was trying to appeal to the middle…the white middle. He even seemed to oppose Graham-Cassidy. Gillespie ran against a Trumper in the primary and barely won. I had thought he would go further to the right, and he hasn’t quite done that…yet.
I suspect after the Q poll showing Northam up 10 that Gillespie will turn harder right, but he definitely went into that debate thinking that a far right approach was not the right political play. That’s rare in today’s GOP.
Radio silence seems more likely to me.
Check out Birds of Longing - maybe someday I’ll learn how to do links.
It’s based on the 150 years or so when Jews, Christians, and Muslims lived in relative harmony in pre-Inquisition Spain. They shared their stories of exile, their memories of homes lost, and an ineffable faith that they would go home again, even if only metaphorically.
I do not see why these churches have to do this. If they want to memorialize the members of the Confederacy in the privacy of their churches they can. It’s the public squares and federal land that get to me. We don’t learn from history by erasing it.
They did it for themselves, not for others.
But how is getting rid of some statues and changing a name on a church “erasing history”? Come on - there is the world’s longest Ken Burns documentary, fictional movies going back to the silent era, never mind all the thousands and thousands of books written.
This is hardly an attempt to erase anything. What is going on is an attempt at justice finally.
I don’t agree. I also think most people ‘learn’ history by being confronted by it, questioning it and hearing stories about it. I don’t think they camp out in front of PBS unless they are a true history geek (I confess I am! ) I think they ‘wonder’ who that guy on the horse is and when you remove it they don’t ask. ‘Justice’ is not paying for it in the public square. History is learning about what they did, why they did it and why it was so wrong…and as a side note, history is finding out that many of these statues were erected as a giant FU to civil rights. Are you going to learn that from the movies?
Probably not. Ask Jordan an impertinent question for me Thursday, OK? 
Roger that General. Too funny.
Since some of us already knew that, the answer is “no.” Germans don’t need memorials to Adolph Hitler in every town to remind them of their past, and having statues of traitors throughout America’s south hasn’t exactly filled it with a love of learning.
But you someone could always make a movie about the controversy. I’m sure the other side’s already plotting out some redneck version of events patterned after God’s Not Dead 2…