Discussion: Robert E. Lee's Own Church Votes To Take His Name Off It

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How so?

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What is this country coming to? Next thing you know, the steamboat will vote to change its name!

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Well, Grace Episcopal Church does have more of a religiousy, churchy, kids-in-Sunday-schoolish ring to it than does The Robert E. Lee Memorial Church. It even includes the denomination. But, hey…that’s just me. Some people consider ongoing and permanent shout-outs to the Confederacy the only true religion.

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How far is it from Christ Church Cathedral in Cincinnati to the National Underground Railroad Museum Freedom Center?

Just a few miles.

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Yeah and they never saw Gone with the Wind either I guess.

You’re ridiculous if you think kids learn anything from statues.

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Not sure yet

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I’ve never seen all of it. Can’t make myself sit through the full thing. :grinning:

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@inversion et al.

This is a really interesting piece by the incomparable Mo Rocca that ran on CBS Sunday Morning a few weeks back.

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It’s a chick flick, at the core, because the book is a romance novel, at its core.

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O/t

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He’ll never snag another burger-delivery gig now.

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GWTW had to be seen and the book had to be read before anyone learned anything about American history, say when you were about 16 and looking for entertainment. But we know when the actress who played Mammy accepted an Oscar, she talked about being a credit to her race. However, she was forced to sit in the back of the auditorium next to a kitchen.

@tena Def a chick flick and chick book. I took it everywhere with me when I was sixteen and raced through it never thinking of any larger meaning.

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It’s a great movie—wonderful performances, great dramatic scenes, fabulous costumes by Walter Plunkett, and a superb and memorable score.

It’s also a work of complete fiction and not a history lesson in any way—except for the history of film-making.

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While the story is riveting, Mitchell’s prose was deep purple. It’s really a very badly-written book of a great story, sort of like anything by Stephen King.

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I read it 8 times when I was in the 6th grade. I had it almost memorized. hahahahaha

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I hate Stephen King, never have been able to finish any one of his books, and yes Mitchell’s prose is purple, but I was 16 and not yet come across Edith Wharton or Nabokov or Joseph Mitchell’s New Yorker essays.

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Three of my very favorite things!

Add in Willa Cather for “My Antonia” and you’ve got some of the best of the best.

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And I’m not into that in any way. I’m a history buff.

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That’s OK, Lexington and Lee still have the chapel at Washington and Lee University. I attended a wedding there some years ago and was struck silent by the sight of Lee lying in effigy on his sarcophagus, front and center and up on a dais in the chapel where you would normally expect to find an altar. On top of that the apse where he lies was festooned with stars and bars flags and bunting and dramatically lit. It was so overwhelmingly the focal point of the space you couldn’t take your eyes off it.

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And they believe that if he’s someone the community commemorates, then he’s someone to emulate.

How many statues of Goering do you see?

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