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Hey, this is the guy that BEGGED McCain to pick Palin. Go, Billy, GO!!
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I’m not sure the GOP will ever recover from this clusterfuck.
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Panic, shock, and awe. I’m going to enjoy watching the GOP establishment burn.
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Long ago, I ran out of popcorn. Orville Redenbacher’s surviving family members must be thanking their lucky stars for the GOP.
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Today’s Republican: shocked – shocked, I tell you! – to discover that Republicans are assholes.
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Now who’s being politically correct? If you want to dump on the RNC Chair just fucking do it. He shouldn’t lather up his language with praise when what he really wants to do is tell the guy to fuck off.
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Looks like there will be no 3rd party run against Trump if he snags the nomination…
The anti-prophet has spoken.
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Brilliantly and succinctly written.
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I just absolutely love the idea of Priebus as a “Trump minion.”
Ho helo papagueta! Tu es Bella come lá papaya!
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“Trump is a master at sensing and exploiting decay,”
So are Jackals and Buzzards. And the stench emanating from the 2016 GOTP is quite strong.
Better cover yourself with feces and hope for the best Billy.
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The smart-ass in me says, “I’m not sure I should give a fuck.” However, the pragmatic side says, "Hold on there. Our current political system works best with two strong major parties – that’s pretty much the way our Founders intended. When one party goes bat shit bonkers and reduces itself to more of a regional party than a national, the remaining dominant party can–and usually does–get lazy, less competitive in the ideas department. That doesn’t seem to have happened so far for two main reasons: First, it’s still pretty early on, and there’s always that slim chance the Republicans can right their sinking ship and oust the likes of the all-or-nothing Tea Partiers. Secondly, the Democrats are blessed with two very solid candidates, one closer to the center on most issues and one pretty far left. They both have their ardent supporters and many of them.
It’s the not-too-distant future that concerns me. Say the GOP really does devolve to a regional shell of its former national self and the Democrats pretty much rule the roost. In such a situation, my advice to the Democrats is to do all it can to make sure it does right by the people and stay sharp to the people’s needs, not get intellectually lazy, one-policy fits-all sort of existence. Challenge itself on its beliefs and from time to time, substantiate those beliefs, etc., and make sure the policies based upon those beliefs really are serving the whole nation.
I have no real clue what we look like five or ten years out. These thoughts are just bouncing around and thought I’d share.
Edited to add: I am wrong about “that’s the way the Founders intended.” @Khaaannn, below, reminded me about how Geoerge Washington was against the power of political parties. Sorry for that – but that part, I’'m wrong. Thanks @Khaaannn.
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A slightly right-of-center Democratic Party (not unlike its current incarnation), and a truly left-of-center Progressive Party. And the remnants of the angry old white guys going to sovereign citizen seminars, stocking up their survival bunkers, and gradually disappearing.
Hey, I can dream, can’t I?
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I find myself having to laugh at the way politics in this nation is slowly decaying in both parties. And Bill Kristol was a large part of that. So, I have come to the conclusion that it is not about who makes the highest bid for a candidate as much as it is who is willing to make the best deal with the Devil. Obama made his with the Clintons and became a neutered President instead of a great one. Bush made his with Cheney and millions were injured, killed, or displaced so he could prove he had a bigger set than Daddy. Trump has always made deals and you can be sure that if there is one to give him a good paycheck to save his business, he will make the deal. Cruz made his deal with Goldman Sachs and his Daddy’s idea of God. Clinton has made hers with feminist extremists and Wall Street.
So, the question becomes would Bill Kristol make a deal with Bernie Sanders to defeat Trump and would Sanders make the deal in exchange for the media spin that could bring moderate Republicans together with Democrats to change the country, with the understanding that each returned to their own corner once the election was over. Now that would be a real deal with the Devil for both of them, but unfortunately, it might be the only one that could save this nation from Trump, Cruz, or Clinton and their cronies. Politics makes strange bedfellows and that would be the strangest one ever, but one can dream, I guess.
I’m with ya on that —
When one party goes bat shit bonkers and reduces itself to more of a regional party than a national, the remaining dominant party can--and usually does--get lazy, less competitive in the ideas department.
Yea… this too — But the founders were also worried that " absolute power… corrupts absolutely " — You always need something to …balance things out… —
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RNC officials were quick to try to to quash this discussion. Committee spokesman Sean Spicer told Breitbart News on Sunday that “any effort to facilitate a third party ultimately is helping to elect Hillary Clinton.”
This is the bottom line. No matter how much ritual hand-washing they do, ultimately, the Republican Establishment will be every bit as pro-Trump as the idiots who go to his rallies hoping to see someone get hurt. And when they point back to this period and say “Don’t blame us! Look how much we tut-tutted in public!” I hope everyone remembers that.
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A pro-business Republican party without the far right nonsense and a moderate Democratic Party without the far left stuff. That is the American tradition. The center works best.
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Which Democratic Party are you referring to? The current Democratic Party is distinctly right-of-center, with nary a far left idea to be seen. And it’s way too pro-business already.
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Exactly.
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