Discussion for article #235729
Penny wise, pound foolish.
You’d think we’d learn.
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A senior center built by a church has been burned in a HUGE fire. 60 apartments are gone. Why? What’s the frigging point?
A CVS pharmacy torched, Mom & Pop stores looted, it solves nothing. It only hurts the community.
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There’s no point once the match meets the powder keg. So, how was the powder keg built and filled over the years?
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That’s not related to the protests
Fire not related to looting, official says
Julie Zauzmer · 9:27 PM
The three-alarm fire raging several miles away from protests that have turned violent in Baltimore is not related to the unrest, fire department spokesman Samuel Johnson said.
Johnson said that the fire, which was first reported at 8:49 p.m., appeared to be related to nearby construction. He did not know what started the fire.
The building was unoccupied when it caught fire, he said.
Johnson said that 94 firefighters were on the scene as of about 9:25 p.m
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You force a whole bunch of poor, very much oppressed, shoddily-educated young people with no prospects into condensed housing units for years, then provide a spark like this… and you’re surprised when there’s this kind of backlash? How can this still be “shocking” or “a group of thugs” like the talking heads say? Madness. Sheer madness.
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The pastor of the church was just interviewed on CNN. He said someone told him a person was seen running from the facility as the fire started. He then said it could be that it was connected to the riot but he wasn’t sure. Looking a a map of Baltimore and where the troubles are occurring it looks to me like this fire could be related to the riot. Maybe it isn’t, maybe it is. In any case it’s a terrible loss for that church.
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None of this has anything to do with the poor kid killed unjustly and wrongfully by the cops. That’s simply not justified.
But this kind of rioting is a dishonor of the memory of that kid. He did not die for thieves to steal toilet paper from the CVS.
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Sometimes gang-bangers try to destroy those who are holding communities together. A pastor is at times quite vulnerable. Let’s say he turned in some drug dealer. This riot is a time for revenge against that pastor maybe. Stuff like that does happen.
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I’m glad I don’t live in a place full of gangs, revenge and hatred on a scale like you describe.
I agree the kid was killed unjustly and that the riots serve no honorable purpose.
The rage had to have been building for years.
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To all of those who want to analyze this in isolation, I have two words…
Tipping point.
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Correct, firefighters at the scene say the source has not been determined yet. Previously officials not at the scene have said it was…and was not…related to the riots. Mixed answers. I’ll go with the guys there and see what they determine when they investigate. But it sure does seem like more than a “coincidence” at this point. This small faction of people who are really not “protesters” are some pretty sick, ignorant and hateful people. And it seems there are a lot of kids in in it too, which does not say much for the adults that are supposed to be supervising those kids.
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That’s the valid point to question not the idiot reactions of disenfranchised people burning in their own despair trying to fight back inappropriately. The response is undoubtedly inappropriate, but what is the cause for the inappropriate response from some opportunists in the community? What caused this? Decades and centuries of police violence against black people without accountability and Freddie Gray caused this. Cause and effect.
These actions from rioters are not actions of protesters who care about the community anyway, these are the actions of people who don’t care about the community. The protesters care about the community and these bad apple rioters undermine their legitimate cause. It’s a real shame because bigots will use the bad apples to try to justify injustice.
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Live coverage from Baltimore station. Local reporters who know the lay of the land.
http://www.abc2news.com/live?_ga=1.102882816.1693882896.1430182222
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Yeah, you make sure to get in your condemnation from the safety of your living room.
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Adults can’t be everywhere all the time, especially against some out of control kids. Regardless, point taken. Parents need to do better than this.
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It is proving the point that unlike the legitimate protesters, these rioters don’t care about justice. The rioters only care about their own selfish opportunistic desires, hence the immoral rioting response mirroring the immoral police brutality against Freddie Gray. An eye for an eye leaves the whole world one eyed, then blind at some point.
Right, so I can’t condemn Dick Cheney and the Iraq War without having been in Iraq or DC. Got it.
Oh, and I am in a cab.
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Let me see if I have this right – you’re comparing the architect of an illegal invasion of a sovereign country that led to the murder of more than 100,000 innocent civilians with a parent who isn’t able to control a teenager in an urban environment? Yep, they are clearly of equal culpability.
What the fuck does Iraq have to do with Baltimore, you moronic simp? Have you been a parent of an African American teenager in an inner city environment? My guess is strongly NO. So shut the fuck up. Stop trying to pretend that you know what that pressurized situation is like.
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Interesting. You criticized Darren Wilson and called him a murderer, etc, but you were not in his shoes. And you were 100% wrong. But that was OK?
I know lots of parents of black teenagers in inner city environments, I live in NYC. And most of the kids are very well behaved actually.
Great vocabulary you have. Do you need to say fuck all the time?