Discussion: Richard Haass: Restaurant Booting Sanders 'Violates Spirit' Of Civil Rights Act

He was out there blatantly and repeatedly violating it.

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It may be that Blue Blood mentality of loving animals and hating people. A comfortable attitude sometimes.

We have loads of fun together, here in Tucson. For example, we go out into our backyard in June at midday and watch each other’s face turn red and sweat.

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I don’t get why would anyone would kick out Sweet Sarah Prekrasnaya.

I think you meant to reply to someone else. I’ll forward your comment to him. Regards, Warren

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Hardly. Grandfathers were coalminers. Dad was at first a bus driver and then trained as an aviation mechanic during WWII.

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Matt, get out of my head. Too many talkers with almost nothing of significance getting their 15 minutes.

I also say to another guy named Matt @mattshuham Basta cosi

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I did not say that it was illegal. I am saying that it is ethically wrong.

Not serving people for health and safety reasons (ā€œno shirt, no shoes,ā€ inebriation, etc.) is fine.

Not serving people solely for political or religious beliefs is ethically wrong.

If you think that denying public services for political beliefs and affiliations is okay, then how is that different from denying public services for religious beliefs and affiliations?

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hahahahahahaha There is no accounting for other people’s preferences. I was only kidding cause I"m sure Mrs. vonholst considers herself a lucky lady.

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Of course, lets break out the tar and feathers and ride them out of town on a rail…or not.

I am very uncomfortable with mob rule, for any reason. That is why we have laws.
She had every legal right to eat there, just like you do in any restaurant.

The logical conclusion to this kind of activity is not letting people you don’t like eat at the lunch counter. In Selma, AL.

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He’s correct that it was politically counterproductive. It just adds one more insult to the Trumpers ā€œwe’re being persecutedā€ burden. A lot of Trumpism is about pushback.

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Oh, ethics. OK. Well then…

If murder is wrong, would I be wrong to shoot and kill someone who is about to kill my child?

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No it isn’t. No it isn’t. No it isn’t. Being a Nazi is not a protected class. People have moral objections to Nazis. Therefore they don’t have to serve them. It has nothing to do with discrimination. Certainly it has nothing to do with the Civil Rights Act.

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You make some good points, but this is where I think your argument fails. I don’t believe Huckabee-Sanders was asked to leave because of her political beliefs or affiliation with the Trump administration. She was asked to leave because she is a public advocate of the clearly unethical- and, to many people, repugnant and reprehensible - policy of separating the children of asylum seekers from their parents.


(Edited: Changed clearly immoral to clearly unethical, for clarity.)

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A guy who’s drunk when he’s in a restaurant will be denied service. A woman sitting at a bar clearly trying to pick up a ā€œdateā€ will be tossed out. A person shouting and harassing other customers will be tossed out. No shoes, no service still is policy. We reserve the right to refuse service still is policy. Asking a party of African Americans to pay in advance is not policy and far more offensive than hurting Sarah’s feefees, but it’s done.

@warrenzevon @tena

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Except she wasn’t denied service for her political beliefs. She was denied service due to her actions. The problem isn’t that she supports Trump. The problem is that she actively lies to the American people to enable a lying conman to hurt America for his own personal benefit while attacking anyone who dares to question her about her obvious lies.

That’s the exact sort of person who should be denied service and why people used to resign instead of letting their reputations be destroyed by supporting villainy. The problem isn’t that we’re shaming people who lie to America on Trump’s behalf, but that we’re not doing it enough. Maybe if everyone who lied for Trump was shamed out of public life, they’d finally get the message and stop enabling him.

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If you’re a liberal and knowlingly patronizing any business owned by a conservative you need to re-examine whether there are ANY other suppliers for what you’re purchasing. Starve the beast.

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I probably get it from my parents. When we moved to Los Angeles in 1960 (Dad was an aircraft mechanic at LAX), my folks would go to the beach almost every weekend. Neither would swim, but they would set up chairs on the beach, or a bluff overlooking the ocean and just stare out at the Pacific for hours. I never understood it then, but I came to think that this is how Brits of that generation meditate. After several visits to the UK, I noticed oldsters in the UK seem to sit in chairs and stare out over the ocean a lot.

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If only those pesky dems would stop violating the ā€˜civil rights’ of those sensitive Republicans!!!

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We would have heard nothing of Sanders and her party being asked to leave if she hadn’t tweeted the news to us. She had an objective and a purpose, and so here we are; morans calling the wrong Red Hen to harass the wrong people and the occupant weighing in as only he can and all of it taking up far too much time when all around us the country is exploding.

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