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Might be okay if they call it a Town Hall. Won’t work as a debate if only one to zero people show up.
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Didn’t the Union Leader endorse Christie ? This may as well be a Republican hit job with Chuck Toad being the moderator.
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Two anonymous sources familiar with the planning told BuzzFeed’s Evan McMorris-Santoro the debate would be moderated by NBC News’ Chuck Todd and MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow and take place on Feb. 4—five days before the first-in-the-nation primary.
With Rachel Maddow as co-moderator, it might be worth tuning in. Why Chuck Todd, though?
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Rachel will be moderating? Now it’s worth watching just for that.
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poor chuckles… both of his programs are disasters ratings wise… meanwhile, rachel has been killing it – and getting major (well deserved) props for bringing attention to the flint, michigan story, that would have remained a local one had she not given it attention.
msnbc counting on rachel to bring the ratings, and hopefully giving a boost to chuckles. ain’t gonna work. no one likes him.
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Eminence Snidleé
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Chuck Todd.
Great Clips.
What does it mean?
I dunno. I agree with Josh that more debates are just as likely to be beneficial to Hillary as well as Bernie. O’Malley is overly earnest to the point of annoyance, irrespective of the number of debates. But I’m also wondering, and nervous, about the press and media directly manipulating and circumventing the political process. But with Fox Spews I guess that boat left the pier long ago.
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Interesting. My prediction is that the DNC will knuckle under and allow the candidates to participate in this additional debate (and maybe others)…now that pretty much everyone agrees that the debates have been more helpful than unhelpful to HIllary, and now that she’s losing ground and needs all the help she can get to try to stop that trend.
If so, can we finally stop pretending that the DNC’s insistence on few debates, with poor timing, wasn’t all about protecting Hillary?
If the DNC does stick to it’s guns and threaten to ban any candidate who takes part in this “unsanctioned” debate from participating in the two remaining “sanctioned” ones, it will be interesting to see what happens. Assuming Bernie and Martin agree to participate in this debate, clearly Hillary wouldn’t benefit from the optics of being represented by an empty chair with her name on it in this debate, nor would it help her to be in a shambolic one person “debate” for those next two “sanctioned” debates if the DNC keeps its promise to punish the other contenders for taking part in this “unsanctioned” debate.
This is why I assume that if Bernie and Martin agree to this debate, Hillary probably will also, and the DNC will then almost certainly have to back down on its threats to ban the candidates from the two remaining “unsanctioned” debates. It’s the least damaging outcome for Hillary – and if she does as well in this “unsanctioned” debate as she’s done in the “sanctioned” ones so far, it could actually be helpful to her. The damage of reinforcing what almost everyone already knows – that the DNC is not an impartial player in this contests, and will adjust as needed to suit Hillary’s needs – would be far less than the damage of being seen as trying to avoid debating her opponents.
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Perhaps DWS could fall on a symbolic sword as well.
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I live in NH, and I love Rachel, love Bernie, love Democrats in my state. But if Chuck Toad is there, I’m not watching. He knows nothing about the issues, and follows politicians like a puppy dog behind his masters/mistresses. Totally unqualified to host or moderate a debate, that’s Chuck. Maybe Rachel can school him in how it should be done.
Bernie, Hillary, even that guy from Maryland or wherever, they all are head and shoulders above any of the Republicans running for prez this time around. Last time we had a serious Republican running for prez? 1952. He won. He was a fine Republican president. Oh, yeah, he also led the allies to victory over Hitler and the Nazi’s in Germany and Italy and won WW II… he was a real hero for most of the free world. Why are there no Republicans running for president that ever served in the military? Why are they all draft-dodgers or just lawyers who figure out a way to escape service to their nation? Heck, I’d settle for a Republican that was in the Peace Corps. NOT ONE like that these days, they all are white men (one white woman) who hate our Latino neighbors to the south, can’t speak a word of French or Spanish, and most of them sound like 6th graders, no knowledge of history of the last 3200 years.
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Not going to watch if Chuck Todd participates at all
I’m with you. I will record it on my DVR, and then skip the parts where he speaks, and watch Rachel ask good questions.
Actually, I’m in NH and I’m voting for Bernie, and nothing will change my mind, so why even watch, my mind is closed. I want Hillary to wake up, figure out that there are a few hundred million of us out here that are not mulit-millionaires like she and Bill are. Most of us in NH are glad to work for $10 an hour. She needs to know that we still have a $7.25 minimum wage and she never worked at McDonalds while she was in college at Wellesley campaigning for Goldwater…she’s nuts. Back in those days, minimum wage was $1.25 an hour. She never had to go a day without food, and she worked for a Republican candidate? She’s just a shill. She can’t think on her own, she needs a Democratic machine to think for her. There are better women around, more qualified for prez than Hillary, I want Tammy Duckworth, she gave up both legs for America in a stupid war. She’s so smart, I love her. Hillary, retire, you are not needed anymore in America, we need someone who actually suffered for our nation… Tammy is my candidate, I hope she runs this year or in 2020.
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BuzzFeed noted DNC rules prevent candidates who participate in unsanctioned debates from participating in the party’s official debates.
I guess its time to change the fucking rules then.
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Just get Debbie Washerwoman Shitz out of the whole deal.
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My guess is that the rule existed long before she took over, but she should work pdq to change that lame rule.
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If Sanders and O’Malley are there, how could Hillary say no? And if all 3 of them are there, what is the DNC going to do for later debates, show an empty stage for two hours?
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I believe they endorse one in each party. But, they might be having regrets after Christie’s not so very good weekend.