Discussion: Report: Mueller To Detail Trump Associates’ Offers Of Russian Sanctions Relief

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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/chris-matthews-trump-breaking-point_us_5c186079e4b0432554c37eaf

OK maybe folks will like this guess better.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cnn-chris-cuomo-donald-trump-russia-bots_us_5c18b30ee4b02d2cae8cb690

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Looks to me like we are getting into the real juicy stuff. Collusion is looking like the the least thing Spanky should be worried about. We may be getting into treason before you know it.

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Look, I’ve been all through the U.S. Code and I don’t see any language in there that says it’s against the law to eat human brains. So when you walk in on someone eating brains and suddenly start accusing them of murder or desecration of a corpse or whatever cockamamie thing you want to dream up, well, frankly, I think you’d probably have a defamation case on your hands and it would serve you right.

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Chris, for God’s sake could you leave the gut-instinct predictions to the amateurs?

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Gotta add popcorn to the grocery list.

Question: what are the “court filings” referenced in the report? Are they filings in an existing case, perhaps relevant to sentencing of one of the cooperators? Or are they filings in new cases, perhaps related to indictments?

Please let it be new indictments.

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“But what if the prosecutor were to offer the president an alternative. What if he were to say he would let the children walk if the old man does the same? That would mean giving up the presidency in exchange for acquittals all around ― not just for himself, but for all his kids.”

Only if it exposes the vermin and his spawn to severe criminal jeopardy from multiple state AGs.

And allows Mueller to focus on Pence, the cabinet, the NRA, and GOP “leadership” in the House and Senate.

ETA: And Ghouliani…

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Too early. I predict six months at the earliest.

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Careful there boyh, don’t tangle with the tingle.

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You don’t understand. There was no collusion. The fact that russia spent millions of dollars manipulating the election and the fact that trump’s people immediately started talking about ways to rescue our russian allies from those unfair democratic sanctions are entirely unrelated. As are any additional payments that russia might have offered to individual members of the administration.

It’s not corruption unless you have an invoice.

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Six months seems like a good over/under point. If Trump is going to go, the GOP will want it to happen well before primary season. Earlier is not out of the question, however, particularly if family or assets get threatened.

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Take a moment to send out T&P to those folks who are going to have to find a way to claim that negotiations over sanction relief in exchange for “services” is SOP, and besides, since he won its all ok. You think it’s easy to pull stuff like that out of thin air, but the easy pickings are gone.
Mark Twain wrote, in “To the Person Sitting in Darkness”. “…most of those People that sit in Darkness have been furnished with more light than was good for them or profitable for us.”
The darkness, as he said, now has “an indifferent quality” and is not “dark enough for the game.”

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Chris, you would be better at this if you could just STFU and let people on your show finish a sentence. Just one lousy sentence. Is that too much to ask?

Or, are you auditioning for a new gig?

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What else could they have offered? Year passes to Disney World? The only thing Putin wanted was sanctions relief. He didn’t want anything else. The Magnitsky Act put his kleptocrat buddies ( and probably Vlad himself ) in a huge bind. That’s what Russia wanted fixed. Junior gave that away when he blabbed about adoptions. The adoption program ( really just a scam 20,000$ per white baby store ) was all Russia could act on after the Act. Adoptions and Magnitsky were linked at the hips. Thank you junior.

I think Mueller’s going to put the “back channel” bullshit, Trump Tower meeting and Wiki crap in focus in the next few days.

Russia offered to fuck with our elections and that was offer was delivered via Manafort and others to the Trump campaign.

In exchange they wanted the sanctions lifted if Trump won.

Trump agreed and made pro Russia changes in the GOP platform to show good faith.

Russia hacked the DNC and set up a meeting with Junior to tell them what they had. I imagine they reaffirmed what they wanted in return.

2 days later Wiki dumped the docs.

Trump won but has not been able to lift sanctions. In fact more sanctions have been drawn up.

Trump’s out of bullshit and Russia is done with him. Shit about to hit the fan.

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And now we’re at the point where every Republican in the country begins to spruce up the old resume. There are going to be so many overs, Trump will have colossal negative coattails.

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Putin did want something else, which Trump has fulfilled perfectly: an assault on environmental protections that threaten Russia’s only asset: oil.**

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It would be a crime in certain circles to eat human brain without fava beans and a nice chianti.

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The whole rethuglican infrastructure, starting at the Koch brothers and working all the way down to Darrell Issa.

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I think there’s a constitutional issue here on top of the delicious black comedy.

The SC is not elected. His job is simply to look into the facts and enforce the criminal law. He can’t drop a prosecution in return for a political act. He can’t cut a deal with Trump whereby he lets the spawn off the hook in return for Trump abandoning his political career, or making a contribution to a charity, or promising to stop tweeting. That isn’t currency that a prosecutor can deal in. Loss of career, personal hardship, remorse, etc is relevant in the context of sentencing, but not in the context of whether or not to enforce the law. Then there’s the broader point: who is the special counsel to decided the monumental issue of what is the appropriate penalty for the president? Mueller will not accept that responsibility as a constitutional matter, nor can he.

If Trump resigns, it will have to be at the request of politicians, as Nixon did. Then the question will become whether a pardon will be forthcoming. Nixon was only pardoned for acts committed during his presidency. To get Mueller off his Trump’s back, Pence would have to issue any Trump pardon in unprecedented terms, since we’re talking about a career criminal here. Even then, Mueller would be able to force Trump to submit to an interview pursuant to his mandate to discover what happened in the 2016 election. Trump would no doubt lie again.

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