No, because the French Government is not threatening death and subsequently EXECUTING them. I find a very, very, very, very, very … big difference.
I had no problem with Muslims peacefully protesting the cartoons, or with he cartoons. Both are find. It’s the small percentage of depraved people who decided to KILL that I have a problem with.
So, as long as Muslims arrest and imprison cartoonists, is that ok? Or would it be wrong for them to do that too?
Because look, I agree that the problem is with killing people or using violence at all. But that’s not an issue of free speech whatsoever. That’s an issue with violence. And if you care about free speech, that includes free speech for Muslims too. If free speech is only for the powerful and not the powerless, it’s not free speech. It’s oppression.
And Louis Gohmert, for one, apparently thinks that’s how it ought to be here.
So – does that mean you think Bill Mahr should be arrested?
No, you said that. I said right in my post I have no problem with Muslim’s protesting, etc., and that it is wrong for France to imprison based on non-threatening words.
Vive Dieudonne et la quenelle!
Not because I agree but because it shows the damned hypocrisy of standing up with “Je suis Charlie Hebdo” signs and aligning yourself with free speech while reserving the right to imprison people who exercise it according to their own views.
No, I said this guy should not be arrested, my statement was more of a “who cares, he’s an a-hole” in jest. The guy is a Truther and just an all around dick. Don’t even compare him to Bill Maher.
“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”
George Owell, Animal Farm
It’s the small percentage of depraved people who decided to KILL that I have a problem with.
Unless they wear badges.
Well that sounds like something else worrying. Alleged crime, arrest, conviction, and sentencing all in under a week?
That sounds a lot worse than “worrying” – it sounds like a police state.
I’ve noted numerous cases where the guy with a badge was wrong, including the one in Montana today. You either have me confused with someone else, or you are obsessed with me. I am beginning to think the latter. yawn…
No.
Threats are, “X had better watch out, because I’m going to do Y to them.” Expressing sympathy or feelings of identification with a criminal, no matter how bad their crime, does not constitute a specific, credible threat.
Helpful hint to the confused: A threat concerns the future. “I feel like a terrorist” does not concern the future, unless it’s coupled with an actual threat.
It’s interesting that so much of the post-Charlie rhetoric was about France’s tradition of liberal democracy being attacked. How can you attack something that doesn’t exist?
I never ever referred to Michael Brown as an “animal”, that is a flat out lie. In fact I have admonished people who have called him an animal. He was a human being. I said he was rowdy and stupid that day, and video bears that out (plus anyone who walks down the street with stolen merchandise in his hand is acting dumb). I did say Zimmerman is trash, and if a woman goes out with him she likely is too. I called them a trashy couple. My opinion, yes. And as to the Montana cop, I said he was crying for himself, not for the victim. He knows he is in trouble. He’s mentally unstable and he broke down like a baby. So you made that up too.
So we disagree on two incidents. That does not make me “racist”, especially when I have sided against the police on several incidents.
So please stop making stuff up and making unfounded accusations.
If I tweeted that “I feel like Clive Bundy” or “I feel like Lanza” would you feel so secure about what you know I meant?
One of the difficulties of ‘censorship’ is that to get a discouraged meaning past the censor the speaker uses double meanings to disclaim the intended meaning. I’'d probably be willing to give this guy more leeway if he did also have a history of anti-Semitic discourse.
“In Islamabad, about 1,000 people gathered after Friday prayers to condemn the magazine for what they called blasphemous images of the prophet. The demonstrators carried signs that read “Shame on Charlie Hebdo” and “If you are Charlie, then I am Kouachi” — referring to the brothers Cherif and Said Kouachi who were behind the massacre at the weekly and who had told survivors they were sent by al-Qaida in Yemen.”
Tell me again what the comic was trying to say?
I’d imagine that such tweets would get you watched carefully by the FBI. They wouldn’t get you arrested. That’s because, as screwed up as our “democracy” is, at least we have Constitutional guarantees of free speech, and France doesn’t.